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That last post was meant for sirius. The first sentence was yours and i was trying to respond to that.
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I'm probably going to have to ask how standard, as from the comics I read, she rarely uses it. Power levels are not being used tho. the primary reason he was being creamed was because he was extremely confused and wasn't even really fighting back until he got really mad, I can show you the fight pre SSJ2 if you want.The real cal howard said:@SD. The sword is under standard equipment, but listed under sometimes, so I'm not entirely certain if it would be used or not. Also, power levels are not linear. SSJ2 would've had to boost him more than two to go from being stomped by a weaker form to being semi-equivalent to a stronger form, especially since the boost had him creaming the weaker form.
Prove it, nobody in DBZ ever busted a solar system.Superkryptonian said:2) Small-star level yes, but it doesn't change that nobody in DBZ other than Kid Buu who is leagues above the Goku used here has done star level feats.
Super perfect cell was capable of destroying the solar system. Goku was able to go toe to toe with perfect cell, who was large star level +. All the main cast in the buu saga except for piccolo and the humans are stronger than SPC. So by that logic, buu is easily solar system level.
That was never stated, so no.SomebodyData said:@Sirius... goku doesnt get the power pole here, you basically refuted your own point. Experience and skill is the same thing and thats debateable because King Kai is crazy old, and etc. her hax has primaryily been refuted, can you defend these points?
1) On the page it is.Ryukama said:@Sirius
1. With a sword that isn't typically within her standard equipement
2. I believe those higher levels come from Frieza doing that in both his absolute weakest state, and completely casually as well. On top of fighters later in the Cell Saga being leagues above him full power, then characters leagues above them etc. Plus the Goku used here is relatively close to 4-B SPC's level. So his level here is fair.
3. Once again does not mean he hasn't or will not occasionally use ranged ki attacks
4. You stated that "while DC Post-Crisis characters have several [Large Star Level+ feats]" citing only the single feat that's listed in the page that isn't at the level you originally claimed it to be is not fufilling the evidence for what you claimed.
Cell is an arrogant character who has never done even star level feats, so how the hell does he know he can blow up the SS? And guidebooks don't mean crap to me when the character does nothing close to that, but I won't even argue.Superkryptonian said:
Look at cell's profile before you think they're not solar system level. And databooks are the OFFICIAL guide to dragon ball, so saying that they don't mean shit means that you don't want to accept the fact that goku beats wonder woman.Sirius The EM Troll said:Cell is an arrogant character who has never done even star level feats, so how the hell does he know he can blow up the SS? And guidebooks don't mean crap to me when the character does nothing close to that, but I won't even argue.Superkryptonian said:
This should be ruled as inconclusive, honestly.
We decided that goku won this fight with 8-2 now that cal changed votes. Sirius is just trying to argue that cell isn't a solar system buster, which is stupid since it's proven.CrossverseCrisis said:So do y'all want to discuss who win this or just discuss about each others powers here?
Cause i might have to close this....
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:So I'd like to ask a few things before formulating an opinion.
1. Is this in character or bloodlusted?
2. Where does this take place? Starting distance?