Some Heralds Lifting Strength Upgrade

[Excellence616]

I was going through some Marvel Herald profiles and Heralds like Thor and Hercules has Class Y LS instead of Stellar LS Via scaling to Hulk but others like She-Hulk and Red Hulk has Stellar LS. Thor is consistently comparable to Hulk and Hercules comparable to Thor. For that these Heralds should have Stellar LS: See Sandbox (Check if I miss anything)

Note: Only those heralds with Class Y and Pre Stellar would have their LS removed and replaced with Stellar.

E.g Thor has:

Class Y (Lifted the Midgard Serpent, who holds the entire Earth, and supported a weight equivalent to 20 planets),

it should be:

Stellar (Consistently comparable to Hulk who is capable of supporting the weight of a star, Lifted the Midgard Serpent, who holds the entire Earth, and supported a weight equivalent to 20 planets)

and also Non Infinity Gauntlet Thanos should have:

Galaxy level, High Universe level at peak (Consistently shown as superior to the likes of Silver Surfer, Hulk and Thor)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I agree with the LS scaling to Hulk.

and also Non Infinity Gauntlet Thanos should have:

Thanos' page honestly needs a massive overhaul, but I don't think Non-Infinity Gauntlet Thanos needs a 3-C rating. He's usually on the upper echelon of the Herald Tiers, so he's fine how he is with what we got

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I agree with the LS stuff, Surfer has his own pre-stellar feat to help the Scaling

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Yeah, this makes sense.
I'm not a Marvel expert though, so if there's some issue with scaling Hulk to Thor and SS that I'm not aware of, I guess I can change my mind. But I'm pretty sure they're consistently portrayed to be on the same level.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I'm fine with the scaling if we scale them to Hulk in that way, not sure if Thanos needs a 3-C key though.

 

[Eseseso]

Agree with LS stuff, Thanos doesn't need a 3-C since he's always shown as high-herald level at minimum (and even in base is usually shown as a good bit above Herald level, as shown with his fights against Odin and Galactus).

It's why we don't give Starving Galactus, who scales far above Heralds, a 3-C low-end.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This makes sense.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler]

The first one seems fine and agreeable with Thor and Hulk.

Yeah, Thanos part really isn't necessary but could work based on what you proposed or did propose.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Agree with the Lifting Strength revisions.

Thanos doesn’t need a 3-C key though.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I agree with my fellow staff. As of current accepted and applied scaling, this makes sense.

Also agreed that Thanos doesn't need a 3-C end/key.

 

[Elizhaa]

The update OP seem fine.

 

[Excellence616]

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Gladiator (Marvel Comics)

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Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel Comics)

Gorr The God Butcher is the main antagonist of the 2013 comic series, Thor: God of Thunder. He was a character created by Esad Ribic and Jason Aaron. Stricken with grief over the death of his loved ones, Gorr gave up hope and believed there were no gods. However, after learning they actually...

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and him

Hercules (Marvel Comics)

Over the millennia to come, you will experience emotions you don't yet know are even possible. The only one that will keep you sane is joy. Do not waste time mourning for those whom you outlive. Instead, revel in their friendships. If you savor them to their fullest, forever remembering those...

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Please, is someone willing to lock these profile and close this thread

 

[Excellence616]

Please, leave Juggernaut profile open, I want to add references for him.

 

[Excellence616]

Please, leave Juggernaut profile open, I want to add references for him.

Juggernaut (Marvel Comics)

I'm the Juggernaut! Ain't nothin' -- ain't nobody -- can beat me! Cain Marko, also known as Juggernaut is the step-brother of Charles Xavier and one of the many known enemies of the X-Men. While he and his brother were serving the army in Korea, he entered a hidden temple and found the mystical...

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You can close it now

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@Marvel_Champion_07 @Therefir @IdiosyncraticLawyer

Could you close the profiles mentioned above? I will close this thread, since changes got applied