Snyderverse Downgrade

[RoTt35]

Currently, most characters of the Snyderverse scale from Steppenwolf, who is "At least 6-C" with the justification that he is "just as powerful, if not stronger than his theatrical cut version". The problem is that the 6-C feat comes from a scene from the theatrical cut, while the same scene from the snyder cut is just a 7-B feat, so it doesn't make sense for the snyderverse versions to scale to a feat that just happens in the theatrical cut while in their cut the same feat is far weaker. I tried to search a calc higher than 7-B but the best I found was this Low 7-B feat which works as supporting evidence. Therefore, Snyderverse Steppenwolf and all the characters who scale from him should be downgraded from "At least 6-C" to "At least 7-B"

 

[RoTt35]

And IIRC in other threads some had said that the snyder cut scene is not an AP feat but just Darkseid finding the Anti-Life Equation

 

[Dalesean027]

This makes sense to me but I'll wait to hear more opinions

 

[Propellus]

This seems to make sense, but if Darkseid breaking into the Anti-Life Equation doesn't seem to work out, then I'm fine with just "At most High 6-C"

 

[RoTt35]

If Darkseid's feat isn't considered has AP then they would be "At least Low 7-B, at most High 6-C"

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Agreed

 

[ArkhamDC06]

As much as I hate the idea since I love the Snyder Cut, I agree

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah this is fine. The Snyderverse portrays the feat as a ritual for activating the Anti-Life Equation.

 

[RoTt35]

Okay, so the snyderverse characters would be downgraded to at least Low 7-B. Can I apply the changes or is more input needed?

 

[Mageman460]

Why can't the scale to feats in Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman?

 

[Propellus]

Why can't the scale to feats in Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman?

The reason why they don't fully scale to Supes was because he was weakened

 

[Mageman460]

The reason why they don't fully scale to Supes was because he was weakened

What about Doomsday? Was there a calc for the nuke that didn't kill him?

 

[RoTt35]

What about Doomsday? Was there a calc for the nuke that didn't kill him?

If you mean the nuke that Doomsday survived in space it cannot be calculated since the explosion formulas do not work for explosions that happen in space

 

[Mageman460]

If you mean the nuke that Doomsday survived in space it cannot be calculated since the explosion formulas do not work for explosions that happen in space

My bad.

Looking at Doomsday's page he does have a 7-A calc that Wonder Woman can still scale to right? Which makes people At least 7-A, at most High 6-C?

 

[RoTt35]

That calc was redone like 4 times, the Low 7-B uses the official size of the explosion

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So what would be the tier? "At least Low 7-B" or "At least Low 7-B, at most High 6-C"?

 

[TauanVictor]

Very objective and good, I obviously agree.

 

[RoTt35]

"At least Low 7-B, at most High 6-C", only the at least 6-C was downgraded

 

[Mageman460]

That calc was redone like 4 times, the Low 7-B uses the official size of the explosion

It should probably be removed from the verse page and Doomsday's page then.

 

[RoTt35]

It should probably be removed from the verse page and Doomsday's page then.

Yes

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Downgrade makes sense

 

[RoTt35]

I'll also add this explanation to the verse page to avoid confusion, since Doomsday is "At least 6-C"

SnyderVerse characters only scale from Doomsday's Low 7-B feat since Steppenwolf's 6-C feat is exclusive to the Theatrical Cut, the same feat in the Snyder Cut is weaker and not considered an AP feat, rather Darkseid activating the Anti-Life Equation.

Is it fine to start applying the changes to the profiles?

 

[RoTt35]

Should I add an explanation in each profile or just list the calc as Small City level would be fine? Since there is already an explanation on the verse page of why they only scale to Low 7-B

Edit: I added a Note/Explanation in the profile, it is fine like that?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

You should also probably remove "(Just as powerful than his theatrical cut version)" from his (Along with the Justice League's profile)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I agree with At least 7-B.

 

[Propellus]

There's still a few more pages that need to be covered

• Wonder Woman
• Aquaman
• Flash
• Cyborg

 

[RoTt35]

All the changes have already been applied so the thread can be closed