Small licht crt

[speedster352]

These abilities are missing from licht profile he should have the same abilities of base Asta's swords and other elf abilities and resistances.

• Causality Manipulation: (With Demon-Destroyer, Asta can revert magic effects as if they never existed in the first place by severing the Cause-and-Effect relationship)
• Resistance to Status Effect Inducement (Raia stated that Zora's paralysis does nearly nothing on elves)
• Limited Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: (Can look into the minds and soul of others and see their past memories and even interact with the soul inside of them. Those memories however, are poured into him which means he will feel the emotions of the target and experience their memories)
• Magical Regeneration Negation: (High-Mid with Black Divider, Prevented Zagred from regenerating) and Size Manipulation (Can increase the size of Demon Slayer)
• Or Magical Regeneration Negation (Low-Mid; Prevented Vetto from regenerating his wound with Forbidden Magic)
• Magic Absorption: (Has unconsciously absorbed the magic of his allies with Demon-Dweller and used said magic as a projectile, his sword drains the magical power of anything that makes contact with them until they're completely unable to use magic and can send back the absorbed Magic in a much more powerful attack)
• Resistance to Life-Force Absorption: (Asta has shown to be able to resist Zagred's Life-Force Absorption magic
• Resistance to Madness Manipulation: (Due to the power of Demon-Destroyer, Asta absorbed and experienced all of Patry's memories and feelings including Zagred's words which drove Patry into despair and insanity and forced the entire elf tribe to have hatred towards humans.)
• And possibly rage power
• Paralysis Nullification: (Able to negate Eclat's Eye Magic, which can physically paralyze her opponents and prevent them from using their magic by looking into the mirror via the combination of Drowa's Mirror Magic)
• Poison Absorption: (With Demon-Destroyer Sword Asta can absorb the effects of Poison Magic spells)
• Possession Nullification: (Strong enough to nullify curses and Reincarnation Magic. Removed all of the elves' souls from their hosts with one attack) and
• Purification: (Type 2; Asta is able to clean the body, mind and soul of evil and highly corrupted spirits such as Elf Luck and Dark Elf Patry. Type 3; Asta can remove poison and status in general by severing the cause-and-effect relationship) and Power Bestowal via Demon-Destroyer Sword (Can bestow others with Anti-Magic)

5 people and 2 mods agree with causality manipulation and resistance to status effects. Not sure about rage power.
Telepathy should be added to licht profile

 

[SuperStar]

You can't give Licht Asta's abilities or resistances especially the anti magic based ones, only asta can wield that power

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm not sure about all of this, as it's unknown how much of the specific effects are because of Asta's Anti-Magic, so I'd really only give Licht Causality Manipulation and Resistance to Status Effect Inducement

 

[speedster352]

I'm not sure about all of this, as it's unknown how much of the specific effects are because of Asta's Anti-Magic, so I'd really only give Licht Causality Manipulation and Resistance to Status Effect Inducement

That's fine but the other things Asta does with the swords in base should be added too since all the swords are licht and the elves, licht and Asta himself confirm this.

 

[CloverDragon03]

No, because again, Asta has Anti-Magic, while Licht doesn't. We're told from one of the other elves that Demon-Destroyer severs the cause-and-effect relationship so Causality Manipulation is fine (as an elf saying this indicates that Licht himself could do it as well), and Zora's statement about paralysis not affecting the elves would extend to Licht so he would get Resistance to Status Effect Inducement

I'm not accepting any of the other stuff

 

[speedster352]

No, because again, Asta has Anti-Magic, while Licht doesn't. We're told from one of the other elves that Demon-Destroyer severs the cause-and-effect relationship so Causality Manipulation is fine (as an elf saying this indicates that Licht himself could do it as well), and Zora's statement about paralysis not affecting the elves would extend to Licht so he would get Resistance to Status Effect Inducement

I'm not accepting any of the other stuff

That's fine then so no to regen negation and rage power?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Nope, only those two that I mentioned are good to go

 

[speedster352]

Nope, only those two that I mentioned are good to go

So does this crt need more input or can the changes be applied?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Needs way more input my dude

 

[speedster352]

Needs way more input my dude

Rage power is an elf ability from the reincarnation spell they all have it

 

[Nierre]

Causality Manipulation: (With Demon-Destroyer, Asta can revert magic effects as if they never existed in the first place by severing the Cause-and-Effect relationship)

Ehh I guess? If people are iffy on it, then I'm fine with "Possibly" as well.

Resistance to Status Effect Inducement (Raia stated that Zora's paralysis does nearly nothing on elves)

Yeah.

Limited Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: (Can look into the minds and soul of others and see their past memories and even interact with the soul inside of them. Those memories however, are poured into him which means he will feel the emotions of the target and experience their memories)

Mmmmm looks more like an Asta thing if anything, so I disagree.

Magical Regeneration Negation: (High-Mid with Black Divider, Prevented Zagred from regenerating) and Size Manipulation (Can increase the size of Demon Slayer)

Asta only.

Magic Absorption: (Has unconsciously absorbed the magic of his allies with Demon-Dweller and used said magic as a projectile, his sword drains the magical power of anything that makes contact with them until they're completely unable to use magic and can send back the absorbed Magic in a much more powerful attack)

Yes. He absorbs magic with the sword to use Conquering Eon

Resistance to Life-Force Absorption: (Asta has shown to be able to resist Zagred's Life-Force Absorption magic

Anti Magic.

• Resistance to Madness Manipulation: (Due to the power of Demon-Destroyer, Asta absorbed and experienced all of Patry's memories and feelings including Zagred's words which drove Patry into despair and insanity and forced the entire elf tribe to have hatred towards humans.)
• And possibly rage power

No. IDK about rage power

• Paralysis Nullification: (Able to negate Eclat's Eye Magic, which can physically paralyze her opponents and prevent them from using their magic by looking into the mirror via the combination of Drowa's Mirror Magic)
• Poison Absorption: (With Demon-Destroyer Sword Asta can absorb the effects of Poison Magic spells)
• Possession Nullification: (Strong enough to nullify curses and Reincarnation Magic. Removed all of the elves' souls from their hosts with one attack) and
• Purification: (Type 2; Asta is able to clean the body, mind and soul of evil and highly corrupted spirits such as Elf Luck and Dark Elf Patry. Type 3; Asta can remove poison and status in general by severing the cause-and-effect relationship) and Power Bestowal via Demon-Destroyer Sword (Can bestow others with Anti-Magic)

No

 

[speedster352]

Ehh I guess? If people are iffy on it, then I'm fine with "Possibly" as well.

Yeah.

Mmmmm looks more like an Asta thing if anything, so I disagree.

Asta only.

Yes. He absorbs magic with the sword to use Conquering Eon

Anti Magic.

No. IDK about rage power

No

That's fine

Rage power is an elf ability from the reincarnation spell they all have it

 

[Arkenis]

Causality Manipulation: (With Demon-Destroyer, Asta can revert magic effects as if they never existed in the first place by severing the Cause-and-Effect relationship)

Agree with this

 

[Nierre]

EDIT: According to this scan, (thanks Speedster), the elves states that Licht's sword "severs cause and effect"

So yeah I def agree with Causality Manipulation.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Technically Licht would get Rage Power, as he is an elf and all the elves have that ability, but he's never shown actually using it because this dude Licht is the antithesis of all things rage

 

[SuperStar]

But how do we know that the demon destroyer sword’s casualty manipulation isn’t tied to anti magic?

 

[Worthless]

Causality Manipulation: (With Demon-Destroyer, Asta can revert magic effects as if they never existed in the first place by severing the Cause-and-Effect relationship)

Agree

Resistance to Status Effect Inducement (Raia stated that Zora's paralysis does nearly nothing on elves)

Agree

Limited Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: (Can look into the minds and soul of others and see their past memories and even interact with the soul inside of them. Those memories however, are poured into him which means he will feel the emotions of the target and experience their memories)

I agree

Magic Absorption: (Has unconsciously absorbed the magic of his allies with Demon-Dweller and used said magic as a projectile, his sword drains the magical power of anything that makes contact with them until they're completely unable to use magic and can send back the absorbed Magic in a much more powerful attack)

And this too

 

[speedster352]

But how do we know that the demon destroyer sword’s casualty manipulation isn’t tied to anti magic?

• Causality Manipulation: (With Demon-Destroyer, Asta can revert magic effects as if they never existed in the first place by severing the Cause-and-Effect relationship)
• The elves refer to licht’s sword and he has been shown absorbing magic so it’s part of his swords abilities

 

[Nierre]

But how do we know that the demon destroyer sword’s casualty manipulation isn’t tied to anti magic?

Because an elf quite literally says licht's sword severs cause and effect, so he's referring to the sword, not Asta's Anti Magic.

 

[speedster352]

Agree

Agree

I agree

And this too

That’s fine but clover only agrees with the two things in the op

 

[Nierre]

Magic Absorption: (Has unconsciously absorbed the magic of his allies with Demon-Dweller and used said magic as a projectile, his sword drains the magical power of anything that makes contact with them until they're completely unable to use magic and can send back the absorbed Magic in a much more powerful attack)

No he should still have this.

 

[Deceived3596]

But how do we know that the demon destroyer sword’s casualty manipulation isn’t tied to anti magic?

Statement doesn't mention nor imply anything regarding Anti-Magic being a main or contributing factor.

It's directly stated the Licht's sword itself servers the cause and effect relationships around it, not Anti-Magic.

Since Licht wields this sword he should have Causality Manipulation.

 

[Nierre]

Yes. He absorbs magic with the sword to use Conquering Eon

He should still have Magic Absorption ^

 

[speedster352]

He should still have Magic Absorption ^

I agree with this he is shown consistently absorbing magic attacks

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Because an elf quite literally says licht's sword severs cause and effect, so he's referring to the sword, not Asta's Anti Magic.

Yep

Limited Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: (Can look into the minds and soul of others and see their past memories and even interact with the soul inside of them. Those memories however, are poured into him which means he will feel the emotions of the target and experience their memories)

Licht could have this but with a different justification. I think soul manipulation with SCE

edit: oops posted by accident, darn phone

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

Causality Manipulation, Resistance to Status Inducement, and Magic Absorption are all inherent to the swords or elves, so they can be added.

 

[speedster352]

How many people agree with the thread so far?

 

[speedster352]

Yep



Licht could have this but with a different justification. I think soul manipulation with SCE

edit: oops posted by accident, darn phone

What is sce?

 

[Worthless]

That’s fine but clover only agrees with the two things in the op.

he already had power absorption on his profile except mind seeing

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What is sce?

Nevermind I just glanced through his page it’s not that
How did the elves souls get freed again?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I agree with this he is shown consistently absorbing magic attacks

Magic Absorption is fine

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

One thing that comes to mind is why does Licht have this on his profile: Magic Nullification and Attack Reflection with Demon-Slayer (Can nullify nearly any type of magic with the edge of his Demon-Slayer and reflect a magic spell with the spine of the blade)

That seemingly would be due to Asta's anti magic.

Edit: Licht already has Power Absorption on his profile

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What I wanted to add on that post I accidentally sent earlier.


Memory manipulation and mind manipulation isn’t really an anti magic thing, so I agree that it should be added as an ability of the sword.

Improved? or furthur justification for resistance to madness manipulation already on his profile? cuz the corruption makes an elf lose their minds but Licht, who was corrupted at the highest level, regained it briefly to communicate telepathically (is this mind ability on his profile too?) with Lumiere

 

[CloverDragon03]

What I wanted to add on that post I accidentally sent earlier.


Memory manipulation and mind manipulation isn’t really an anti magic thing, so I agree that it should be added as an ability of the sword.

Based on what?

Improved? or furthur justification for resistance to madness manipulation already on his profile? cuz the corruption makes an elf lose their minds but Licht, who was corrupted at the highest level, regained it briefly to communicate telepathically (is this mind ability on his profile too?) with Lumiere

Nothing, we just leave it as is

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

Improved? or furthur justification for resistance to madness manipulation already on his profile? cuz the corruption makes an elf lose their minds but Licht,

Licht already has resistance to corruption, madness manipulation, and possession. Him regaining consciousness as a demon was due to negative mana being siphoned.

telepathically

This is legit. Telepathy should be added

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Based on what?

To simplify,

memory manipulation doesn’t neg or resist anything.

 

[CloverDragon03]

To simplify,

memory manipulation doesn’t neg or resist anything.

But it happened from Asta negating Patry's dark elf transformation with Anti-Magic

 

[Arnoldstone18]

This is legit. Telepathy should be added

Speed add this to OP

 

[speedster352]

One thing that comes to mind is why does Licht have this on his profile: Magic Nullification and Attack Reflection with Demon-Slayer (Can nullify nearly any type of magic with the edge of his Demon-Slayer and reflect a magic spell with the spine of the blade)

That seemingly would be due to Asta's anti magic.

Edit: Licht already has Power Absorption on his profile

It’s how the sword functions and they seem to keep their abilities as seen when licht absorbs magic.

 

[speedster352]

Speed add this to OP

Added so how many people agree so far?