Small addition to Majin Vegeta's AP

[Vizer04]

The Final Explosion technique should grant Vegeta a higher rating, as it was able to disintegrate most of Innocent Buu's body:

So, Vegeta's profile should be edited like this:

Attack Potency: At least Large Star level, far higher as a Super Saiyan (Stronger than Shin in base form, stomped Pui Pui and Shin was shocked at his power, comparable to Goku), Solar System level as a Super Saiyan 2 (Surpassed Super Saiyan 2 Gohan as a Super Saiyan 2, and then matched Super Saiyan 2 Goku with his Majin powerup. Managed to delay Kid Buu), higher with Final Explosion (Nearly disintegrated Innocent Buu and would've killed him if not for his regeneration)

 

[Quantu]

sure

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yea this should be a thing with most ultimate attacks tbh

 

[Damage3245]

I'm against this. Vegeta's ordinary attacks as Majin SS2 Vegeta were capable of obliterating Buu's body.

This attack is just on a wider range/scope so it got all of Buu at once.

 

[Rez]

Damage's reasoning sounds good but considering how final explosion was shown against Toppo, i think a higher rating with it is fine.

 

[Vizer04]

I'm against this. Vegeta's ordinary attacks as Majin SS2 Vegeta were capable of obliterating Buu's body.

Buu often lowers his own durability when he's playing with his opponents.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This attack is just on a wider range/scope so it got all of Buu at once.

The Final Explosion, like the Tri-Beam, draws upon all of his life-force to amplify his power.

 

[Damage3245]

The Final Explosion, like the Tri-Beam, draws upon all of his life-force to amplify his power.

Sure, I don't doubt that it is stronger based off that. I was objecting to the reasoning in the OP.

 

[KLOL506]

The gap between the lowest and highest ends of 4-B is roughly a trillion times. Vegeta's nowhere near that close. Given the current scaling of him being at 2 kiloFOE, his attack would need to be close to 10 billion times stronger to even warrant such a rating. I disagree.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The gap between the lowest and highest ends of 4-B is roughly a trillion times. Vegeta's nowhere near that close. Given the current scaling of him being at 2 kiloFOE, his attack would need to be close to 10 billion times stronger to even warrant such a rating. I disagree.

"This should be used to denote a character's weapons, techniques, or attributes that are much stronger than their base level, but still within the same tier."

 

[Quantu]

The gap between the lowest and highest ends of 4-B is roughly a trillion times. Vegeta's nowhere near that close. Given the current scaling of him being at 2 kiloFOE, his attack would need to be close to 10 billion times stronger to even warrant such a rating. I disagree.

IIRC, "Higher" doesn't refer to tier, it just means higher potency than whatever value they are at.

Same concept as speed, where characters have "MFTL+, higher in X"

 

[thetechmaster36]

The gap between the lowest and highest ends of 4-B is roughly a trillion times. Vegeta's nowhere near that close. Given the current scaling of him being at 2 kiloFOE, his attack would need to be close to 10 billion times stronger to even warrant such a rating. I disagree.

??? what lmao

This should be used to denote a character's weapons, techniques, or attributes that are much stronger than their base level, but still within the same tier. For example, a character that is Solar System level but has an attack that multiplies their power by 100 times. In this instance it should be written as “Solar System level, higher with that ability or technique”.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Yall got ninjaed B)

 

[thetechmaster36]

Yall got ninjaed B)

grass

Anyways yeah, this is good

 

[Thelastmlg]

just confused a wiki term with a, uh, term

 

[KLOL506]

??? what lmao

Didn't realize that went through for 4-B.

 

[Vizer04]

lmao

 

[Eseseso]

Speaking of Fat Buu, his profile says that he matched SSJ3 and that the Daizenshuu supports it, yet Goku's profile says he easily overpowered Fat/Innocent Bui.

Make it make sense.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm against this. Vegeta's ordinary attacks as Majin SS2 Vegeta were capable of obliterating Buu's body.

This attack is just on a wider range/scope so it got all of Buu at once.

It's depicted as an ultimate attack above all his other ones, especially because it's done by converting his life force into Ki. Against Toppo, for instance, he described it as an attack that even he couldn't destroy

 

[Eseseso]

Agree with OP btw

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Agree with KLOL

 

[KLOL506]

Agree with KLOL

In case you haven't noticed, I have taken back on my statement.

Since there is now a rule allowing 4-B to qualify, I don't... have issues with it per se.

 

[Quantu]

In case you haven't noticed, I have taken back on my statement.

Since there is now a rule allowing 4-B to qualify, I don't... have issues with it per se.

He's probably just meming as per

 

[Kin201]

I agree, though not because it disintegrated Buu's body but for the reasons stated above.

 

[Vizer04]

B U M P

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[CloverDragon03]

"far higher with Final Explosion (Far stronger than his other attacks due to converting his life force into Ki. Completely obliterated Majin Buu's body)"

Is this okay? I know we talked about how the Buu thing isn't hard evidence toward this, but I feel it could work as a bit of extra support

 

[Vizer04]

"far higher with Final Explosion (Far stronger than his other attacks due to converting his life force into Ki. Completely obliterated Majin Buu's body)"

Is this okay? I know we talked about how the Buu thing isn't hard evidence toward this, but I feel it could work as a bit of extra support

I agree with this

 

[Eseseso]

Should we add something for DBS ToP Vegeta since he used it to beat GoD Toppo?

 

[Vizer04]

I guess so

 

[Eseseso]

Speaking of Fat Buu, his profile says that he matched SSJ3 and that the Daizenshuu supports it, yet Goku's profile says his SSJ3 easily overpowered Fat/Innocent Bui.

Make it make sense.

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

Can someone plz answer my question?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Can someone plz answer my question?

Not relevant to the current thread, so no

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump...

 

[Quasar002]

I agree.

 

[Quasar002]

I wonder if goku ssj3 would be able to withstand majin vegeta's self-explosion.

 

[Godernet]

Agreed, didn’t know this was a thing.

 

[Godernet]

I wonder if goku ssj3 would be able to withstand majin vegeta's self-explosion.

I don’t even think the Toppo version showed enough to clear an at least 4x gap in power but it’d probably do damage.