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Skulduggery Pleasant vs Chosen Undead
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Hmmmmmm
Vile's shadow powers are kinda ridiculous. There's a 100 ways he could kill the CU without CU ever getting close. And if he does get close, Vile shadow walks or flies away.
On the other hand, light was used against (an admittedly much much weaker version of) Necromancy, so it's entirely possible that lightning spells could momentarily dispel individual shadow attacks. I don't know if we can consider Dark Sorceries the same as necromancy (despite their similar looks they do have different principles), but if we do, the silver present could also give CU a few moments f rest from the onslaught of shadows.
As for the death bubble... Idk. Vile's was theoretically going to kill half the planet at once, but I'm pretty sure max level CU had way more than 3,000,000,000 souls. So... Dunno how useful it would be. Maybe Vile could theoretically absorb the CU's souls, 3,000,000,000 at a time, which might weaken CU and strengthen Vile...
honestly, I'm inclined to say inconclusive, leaning towards Vile. Vile will never get tired and will literally rip CU to shreds with his shadows, and can just shadow walk or fly away to dodge or if he wants to make distance, but with CU's resurrection he'll never get put down for good.
Hmmmmmm
Vile's shadow powers are kinda ridiculous. There's a 100 ways he could kill the CU without CU ever getting close. And if he does get close, Vile shadow walks or flies away.
On the other hand, light was used against (an admittedly much much weaker version of) Necromancy, so it's entirely possible that lightning spells could momentarily dispel individual shadow attacks. I don't know if we can consider Dark Sorceries the same as necromancy (despite their similar looks they do have different principles), but if we do, the silver present could also give CU a few moments f rest from the onslaught of shadows.
As for the death bubble... Idk. Vile's was theoretically going to kill half the planet at once, but I'm pretty sure max level CU had way more than 3,000,000,000 souls. So... Dunno how useful it would be. Maybe Vile could theoretically absorb the CU's souls, 3,000,000,000 at a time, which might weaken CU and strengthen Vile...
honestly, I'm inclined to say inconclusive, leaning towards Vile. Vile will never get tired and will literally rip CU to shreds with his shadows, and can just shadow walk or fly away to dodge or if he wants to make distance, but with CU's resurrection he'll never get put down for good.
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This is basically Saber vs Ghost Rider, one COMPLETELY rips apart the other, but the other can't die.
Inconclusive
Inconclusive
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The chosen undead is lucky he has type 6 immortality and ressurection, otherwise death manipulation would have killed him long ago.
Inconclusive for reasons above.
Might come back to wank CU a bit, but I think Monarch's reasoning is solid that I cant dispute it.
Inconclusive for reasons above.
Might come back to wank CU a bit, but I think Monarch's reasoning is solid that I cant dispute it.
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Since when does Vile have death manip?
I think you misread. He has resistance to death manipulation.
I think you misread. He has resistance to death manipulation.
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...Monarch Laciel said:
I need a new brain
He is still super lucky to have type 6 immortality and ressurection
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Vile used to have death manipulation, but then I came along and said, "no, that's clearly soul manipulation"
And yes. Yes he is
And yes. Yes he is
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I want to turn that top part into a meme.Monarch Laciel said:
But yeah, back to thread.
I never thought I would see the day where someone with half a page of text would get inconclusive with someone with.. well, less then half a page of text.
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Oh, wait. I never voted.
Inconclusive. Like what was said earlier, it really does look like Lord Vile destroys, but the Chosen Undead can't be permanently killed by anything LV is flinging around here. Basically just an endless cycle of Vile beating the shit out of the poor Undead until the former eventually says "****, this is getting boring." and proceeds to go back to doing something productive with himself.
(Or at least that's what I assume he'll do. I don't know the character well enough to say for certain whether or not "endless killing of one guy" is his kind of entertainment or not...)
Inconclusive. Like what was said earlier, it really does look like Lord Vile destroys, but the Chosen Undead can't be permanently killed by anything LV is flinging around here. Basically just an endless cycle of Vile beating the shit out of the poor Undead until the former eventually says "****, this is getting boring." and proceeds to go back to doing something productive with himself.
(Or at least that's what I assume he'll do. I don't know the character well enough to say for certain whether or not "endless killing of one guy" is his kind of entertainment or not...)
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I mean, do we consider "turning into a mindless hollow" a loss for the CU?
Because that might happen after Vile kills him enough (like, many thousand times). Or he homeward bones back to Lordran and BFRs himself
Because that might happen after Vile kills him enough (like, many thousand times). Or he homeward bones back to Lordran and BFRs himself
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Inconclusive for Monarch's original reasoning.
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until an undead has a objective and enought will power to procede, they won't hollow, chosen undead has both. but anyways couldn't lord vile get exausted (after killing the CH for like 1 million times) ?Monarch Laciel said:
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Vile is tireless.
There's a quote that I can't find where Val and Skulduggery are running through a passage a few metres wide that is opening ahead of them while simultaneously closing behind them, which is basically "Valkyrie was jealous of him. He had no lungs to breathe, no muscles to feel burning". He can keep going as long as he needs.
And if CU dies a million times, pretty sure that willpower is going to be worn away.
There's a quote that I can't find where Val and Skulduggery are running through a passage a few metres wide that is opening ahead of them while simultaneously closing behind them, which is basically "Valkyrie was jealous of him. He had no lungs to breathe, no muscles to feel burning". He can keep going as long as he needs.
And if CU dies a million times, pretty sure that willpower is going to be worn away.
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