Simon possible acasuality type 5

[Livinmeme]

After he absorbed the multiversal labyrinth, along with every single version of him, including those from the past and future, this is blatantly stated by him saying that gurren laggan is unbound by casuality and effect now, and above things like fate. And there is presedence of similar things being accepted as casusality type 5 ( After fusing his past and future self with the Li Qiye in the present, his Grand Dao grants him a state of perpetuality, with his existence becoming changeless and thus unable to be affected, including any kind of changes from the Dao or time itself https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Li_Qiye)

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Pretty sure Simon being interacted with normally by literally everyone at the end of the series would make this an instant no sadly (if it weren’t for that, I would say yeah)

 

[Livinmeme]

Pretty sure Simon being interacted with normally by literally everyone at the end of the series would make this an instant no sadly (if it weren’t for that, I would say yeah)

Something something spiral energy and the fact that EVERYONE was unchained from the laberynth, making them trascend casuality and effect ad verbum

 

[Rikimarox2]

First scan doesn't work, and... I don't see how this case is similar to Li Qiye?

I'm not familiar with Simon, but from what I'm seeing; he absorbed all his future and past versions, and transcended causality and fate. Which is, cool. But there is no statement of being changeless, not be changed, perpetuality, cannot be interacted with by anything, etc...

Li Qiye, for example, has the direct statement that he cannot be changed by the Dao, or anything, really. He is not affected, and was granted a state of perpetuality. I don't see anything similar to Simon besides "All versions fused".

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Something something spiral energy and the fact that EVERYONE was unchained from the laberynth, making them trascend casuality and effect ad verbum

Everyone? Including the kid that Old Man Simon interacts with at the end of the series? That’s not the impression I got while watching at all. That would be really funny though

Anyways nah, Simon wouldn’t get Type 5 at all from what I know.

 

[Johner2133451]

Seems more into immunity to causality manip as he trancends it

 

[Livinmeme]

Seems more into immunity to causality manip as he trancends it

He trascends it and lacks it, he trascend it because...Well he said it, and he lacks it as there is no more effect on him after he absorbed his own future self (times infinity), meaning there is only present simon.

 

[Theglassman12]

Literally nothing about that scan remotely talks about him being unchangeable as a result of him being outside of cause and effect.

 

[Livinmeme]

Literally nothing about that scan remotely talks about him being unchangeable as a result of him being outside of cause and effect.

He literally states that he is beyond case and effect, and this not only goes in hand with what the laberynth is, but also the themes of the story.

 

[Theglassman12]

That doesn’t remotely qualify for type 5 Acausality where he’s unchangeable due to being outside of cause and effect

 

[Livinmeme]

That doesn’t remotely qualify for type 5 Acausality where he’s unchangeable due to being outside of cause and effect

??? Cmon, explain how he can be bound from casuality and effect, YET, still suffer from casuality and effect.

 

[Theglassman12]

Explain how him being unbound from cause and effect results in him being unchangeable, because you need to prove that's what's happening to Simon if you want to push for this ability. Just saying he's above cause and effect doesn't qualify for it anymore.

 

[Livinmeme]

Explain how him being unbound from cause and effect results in him being unchangeable, because you need to prove that's what's happening to Simon if you want to push for this ability. Just saying he's above cause and effect doesn't qualify for it anymore.

Being affected by case and effect means you are unbounded, you know that trascending stuff means you are unaffected by those stuff, right? How the actual **** could he be affected when he doesn't have a future, present, and past version of himself anymore? Does a bunch of consistent statements falter because of the lack of an statement that he is untouchable? Pure nonsense.

 

[Theglassman12]

Lacking a past present and future has nothing to do with type 5 Acausality, you just described type 2 which just shoots your argument in the foot even harder. If this is all you have as evidence then I don't really see the point in this continuing.