SHY - Making it tier 7

[Jackof_noTrades068]

SHY S2 has dropped so what if I drop a CRT too?
Cause this will make it easier for me to make the MC page once this is out of the way (She's a headache to scale). Also future revisions will be easier with this done.
TLDR its just calcs and abilities.

New calculations (main and supporting)

Ap/Dura

• Hollow's contribution to the Amaterasu Flare - 4 Kilotons of TNT (Low 7-C+)

Scales to Hollow, as she is noted to be the strongest Amarariruku member combat wise, this doesn't scale to the others​

The already accepted 2x multiplier on her page makes Karakuri scale to 8 Kilotons of TNT (7-C)​

• Kehehe tanks her own explosion - 1.1 Kilotons of TNT (Low 7-C) (For now supporting feat, when there's more profiles mid tiers scale to this)

Lifting Strength

• SHY's thruster propulsion - 1344 Tons of Force (Class M) (Even Hollow can't really stop her propelled charges, she just manages to resist it for a little bit. So this only applies to SHY and functions as a supporting feat)
• A not angry Doki throws a log - 1077 Tons of Force (Class M) (Scales to Hollow as she would need to be at least physically relative to Doki to be considered "Unrivaled", as she's a melee combatant. She'd also be notably stronger than Meng Long, who offscreen fought an angry Doki for an hour, but what we saw did have Doki grabbing him at one point yet he could get out of that somehow)
• An angry Doki lifts a boulder - 488 Tons of Force (Class K)

Speed

• SHY's movement speed - Mach 0.23 (Subsonic)

New abilities for Hollow

• Resistance to Corruption and Empathic Manipulation (Together with Tokimaru, Ai and SHY[43]. She shared the burden of the collective fear induced on tens of thousands of residents within the Tokyo city center[21] with minimal negative effects showing. When tiny dregs of said fear and negative emotion leaked out into the world, it crystalized people's hearts and turned them into monsters[44]. With said tiny dregs being comparable to Stigma's rings, which draw out the negative emotions out of one's heart[12]. While SHY and Mai could withstand a far larger quantity of that black mist, although individually it would eventually kill them)
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation and Sleep Manipulation (Tzveta is unable to control Psychic energy users such as Teru and Papesha. Tzveta can control people by filling their hearts with her own feelings in order to link their minds together[15]. Papesha, is able to maintain her consciousness in Tzveta's space without needing her hero form, just her Heart Shift bracelets[17]. Which regular people cannot, with Tzveta not knowing that would be the case, yet Kehehe was not negatively effected either[18])
• Resistance to Absorption and Petrification (Energy Absorption. Heroes and the Amarariruku members are unaffected by the effects of Hollow's dome. Her dome drains people's hearts until they are empty[33], hearts are where people draw[34] physic energy from[10]. It also is able to petrify people)

Also the enhanced senses on her page should be corrected to Extrasensory perception. As she doesn't use one of the 5 senses to detect killing intent, it appears to function as a 6th sense

Agree: LephyrTheRevanchist,Qawsedf234, Darkdragonmedeus (3)

Disagree:

idk (Neutral):

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

All calcs seem to be accepted. The ability resistances are substantiated. Nothing more to add than OP looks good.

 

[Qawsedf234]

• Hollow's contribution to the Amaterasu Flare - 4 Kilotons of TNT (Low 7-C+)

Scales to Hollow, as she is noted to be the strongest Amarariruku member combat wise, this doesn't scale to the othersThe already accepted 2x multiplier on her page makes Karakuri scale to 8 Kilotons of TNT (7-C)

Does SHY have evidence of a UES system? Because making a bright light wouldn't translate to AP otherwise.

The rest look useable/make sense.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Does SHY have evidence of a UES system? Because making a bright light wouldn't translate to AP otherwise.

The rest look useable/make sense.

It’s more a limited energy system but the character in question still scales to it cause she’s stronger than SHY has taken fire attacks from SHY (the light is just her making a fireball. It’s a different application of her firepower. Just that several people helped her power it) and can clash with her fire enhanced attacks and damage her, who also contributed to said big light. While using the same energy for producing light that she does for any of her other attacks. SHY also uses said flames to enhance her striking power.

For more context
All the characters rely on the Heart which is a source of psychic energy as an energy source in the series so the stuff she does with her fire scales to each other. When they are unable to access psychic energy in anyway, they’re human level in physicals and our main character becomes outright scared of combat without her heart converters, if they can access less of it, they can be weakened (If the heart becomes weak enough, you can’t even maintain your hero form and you go back to your normal human state). Even the MC’s stamina becomes much worse without her powers, since without them as she struggles to climb a mountain in the early part of the series.
Furthermore, one’s strength is directly proportional to the strength of their mind/heart. So when SHY is in a more emotional state she’s shown being physically stronger, and having improved firepower. for comparison when she’s not as resolved in a fight, she gets physically overwhelmed and repeatedly harmed by a much weaker character Kehehe, when she is resolved, she can overpower or tank whatever this villain Tzveta can throw at her (whether via physicals or flames). With Tzveta being stronger than Kehehe before she was amped. Yet Teru can bruise her one punch. Users of the energy system can also empower basic objects like rocks with Psychic energy to make them into make shift throwable weapons.

When this guys heart falters, his specific power to push all objects away from him weakens so SHY can tag him on the cheek before she passes out, but earlier in the fight when he was fully confident, nothing got close to him. Hero powers are directly proportional to the energy system, and use this same source, along with powers never being portrayed as notably stronger than heroes physicals.

Although maybe I’m incorrect and this actually does meet the requirements of UES. But basically Hollow is scaling off of SHY’s portion of the light feat. With other characters scaling off SHY's fire attacks via feats of withstanding it or overpowering it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

While using the same energy for producing light that she does for any of her other attacks. SHY also uses said flames to enhance her striking power.

But does those attacks use the same amount of stamina as the giant light attack?

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

But does those attacks use the same amount of stamina as the giant light attack?

Whether it does or doesn’t is unclear.

Since the Light attack is done by an exhausted SHY in the first place who had fought consecutive battles before this and retained battle damage, with that level of energy output being done continuously rather than one shot since this is not a 1 second feat. (the calc only is rating it as joules per second since it’s in watts, since a light would go out if you only powered it for a second. Which is fair to say). So while SHY is tired afterwards she recovers quick. While the ones who weren’t physically tired or constantly fighting before hand don’t show signs of exhaustion or that it took a lot of power from them. Including Ai (The ninja girl in white) who canonically has really bad stamina and she gets more gassed out using her Psychic energy for her sword techniques compared to helping power the light flare (She even passes out and falls over after using her sword moves, or a different case where too many uses of her techniques makes her collapse to the ground for a bit). Hollow then being outright stronger than her anyway (even withstanding a sword technique from her), and Ai being comparable to SHY. So Ai would be in worse condition afterwards if it took more energy than her standard attacks at least. So it becomes more inconsistent if this light is treated as a big move for SHY but not for the other 3 people there.

While SHY has shown exhaustion from other moves even when she’s closer to full stamina. Like this case again of her trying to use this wave of fire in this fight. And in that case she passed out for 2 hours rather than a few minutes. Along with special moves never being noted as particularly intensive or stronger than the normal attacks for other heroes. Continuous use of powers instead like SHY dumping as much fire out as possible over longer timeframes has been shown to actually take a lot out of her, but not the usual super moves.

Although if that doesn’t qualify for all her fire and only her strongest attacks then Hollow would likely still scale since SHY has no reason to not use bigger attacks or to hold back on her when they were fighting.

If even the above doesn't qualify then I suppose characters can be scaled to the bomb tanking feat instead for physicals and having their powers/techniques rated separately. Such as Hollow’s wind attacks which would be rated at that level since applications of Psychic energy scale to each other (then Again the characters she fights can survive her wind attacks too so)
Then for SHY’s case when I make her profile it’d be like “up to Small Town level+ with Flame”

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright to me.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Looks alright to me.

Yeah

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

All calcs seem to be accepted. The ability resistances are substantiated. Nothing more to add than OP looks good.

Thx, can you close this thread? Revisions have been applied