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@Weekly his precognition is passive. Which is going to let him know to use Monado purge to avoid it.
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Shulk vs Weiss
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Except Monado Purge doesnt have the range to reach Weiss given theyre starting several hundred meters apart
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@Weekly Why is range a problem here when Shulk can just catch up to her in a short timeframe?
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Did we not go over the fact that any attack that Weiss tries to fire off will be seen by Shulk through his Vision and be blocked and/or avoided?WeeklyBattles said:
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@Glass Because Weiss' speed amp > Shulk's speed amp so he will not be catching up to her any time soon
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@Starter If shulk tries to block any of her attacks he gets frozen solid, and he's not avoiding a homing attack
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@Weekly yes he will. Precognition guarantees it. First, show proof that she can freeze something that's a literal forcefield. Cause there's nothing that shows she can freeze a literal forcefield, or the fact that she has no counter to Monado Purge, which basically renders any of her abilities moot
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@Weekly I think you're confused. Shulk's Monado Arts are not Aura. It doesn't function like Aura, so it isn't applicable to the same rules as RWBY Aura.
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@Glass Aura is a literal forcefield and ice dust has frozen it multiple times
Shulk doesnt have the range to hit her with Monado Purge and cant use Monado Purge if he's frozen
Shulk doesnt have the range to hit her with Monado Purge and cant use Monado Purge if he's frozen
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When has ice dust frozen aura? (I'm not up to date with rwby and can easily miss stuff.)
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@Jester Ice dust Roman's aura coated weapon in volume 2 and illia's aura coated weapon in volume 5, and ice dust froze an aura using opponent multiple times in the Vytal Festival
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If it's the moment I'm thinking of (the fight with blake.) That really isn't a fair comparison. Since the cane was caught in the clone's ice more then it was frozen.WeeklyBattles said:
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...Okay? So, even if it does freeze Shulk's Shield, it would only freeze the Shield, not Shulk, since it isn't coating him, but surrounds him. Then he switches Arts, the frozen Shield goes away, and he continues on. Is that what I'm hearing?WeeklyBattles said:
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@Starter Dropping the shield wouldnt magically make the ice go away, it'd still be there
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I don't really understand how one can argue for a character who fights a guy with comparable speed amp, can see his opponents' every next move and can stun you & null your abilities.
With that being said, Shulk FRA.
With that being said, Shulk FRA.
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@Reb His speed amp isnt comparable, Weiss' is superior. Seeing a homing attack wont help you dodge it and if he blocks it he gets frozen. He cant null her abilities unless he gets in range whereas Weiss will have hundreds of meters to range spam him before he gets a chance to even attack her.
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>x3 amp vs amp that prevents blitzing
>not comparable
Yes, Precognition will help you to dodge homing attacks.
Also, Weiss ain't amping herself right away, she's not bloodlusted here. She'll go through her abilties list normally, while Shulk will be acting accordingly due to his Precognition, and if he sees shit hitting the fan, he goes Monado Purge GG.
>not comparable
Yes, Precognition will help you to dodge homing attacks.
Also, Weiss ain't amping herself right away, she's not bloodlusted here. She'll go through her abilties list normally, while Shulk will be acting accordingly due to his Precognition, and if he sees shit hitting the fan, he goes Monado Purge GG.
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Actually, Shulk has experience dodging spammable homing attacks; also, you don't know that Weiss speed amp is higher. Shulk's could be like 10x for all we know. Also, Monado Shield countered blizzards with greater range than Weiss's ice manipulation.
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Yes its not comparable
No, precognition will not help you dodge homing attacks as they are, by definition, not something that can be dodged.
He needs to cross several hundred meters before he can even think of trying to use Monado Purge whereas Weiss will be spamming ranged stuff like she does in character
No, precognition will not help you dodge homing attacks as they are, by definition, not something that can be dodged.
He needs to cross several hundred meters before he can even think of trying to use Monado Purge whereas Weiss will be spamming ranged stuff like she does in character
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@Dark Homing attacks are not something that can be dodged so that in and of itself is an issue
Then do the math and then come back because as it stands shulk only amps by an unknown amount
Greater range =/= more potent
Then do the math and then come back because as it stands shulk only amps by an unknown amount
Greater range =/= more potent
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>Yes its not comparable
Whatever flies your boat, I guess.
>No, precognition will not help you dodge homing attacks as they are, by definition, not something that can be dodged.
Not always true. And it's definitely not here, since DDM already covered this.
>He needs to cross several hundred meters before he can even think of trying to use Monado Purge whereas Weiss will be spamming ranged stuff like she does in character
Which he will dodge with precognition & his experience with this kind of stuff.
Whatever flies your boat, I guess.
>No, precognition will not help you dodge homing attacks as they are, by definition, not something that can be dodged.
Not always true. And it's definitely not here, since DDM already covered this.
>He needs to cross several hundred meters before he can even think of trying to use Monado Purge whereas Weiss will be spamming ranged stuff like she does in character
Which he will dodge with precognition & his experience with this kind of stuff.
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Even our page for Homing Attacks states that they cannot be avoided so yes, it is in fact always true.
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"Homing Attacks are moves that seek onto its target, reducing the chance of missing, even if the opponent makes sharp turns and the like."
It says nothing of the kind.
It says nothing of the kind.
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That's NLF though, and homing attacks can be avoided if you're compatible or faster than them. Or use the environment to your advantage. Or just use a heating attack to counter it.
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Shulk FRA
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Yeah you can outspeed it or block it but just trying to dodge a homing attack isnt physically possible
Why would heating it do anything? Its an energy attack.
Why would heating it do anything? Its an energy attack.
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Shulk FRA,current vote btw?
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I believe it's 3 for Shulk, 1 for Weiss and 1 for Inconclusive.
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Then he uses Cyclone or something along those lines to break through the ice and continue on. Actually, now that I think about it, the combination of Shield, Speed and eventually Purge, with the assistance of his Visions, would inevitably get him close enough to effectively fight Weiss.WeeklyBattles said:
You know what, I'm convinced. Shulk should be able to take this for this reason and the reasons of the others above me.
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Eh I'll vote Shulk FRA as well
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Welp, I heard enough, I will vote for nuSora FRA.
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shulk fra
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So I guess this is concluded? If so, I suppose I could close this?
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I guess so, I think since Weekly disagreed we need to wait for a grace period before adding.
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Well, it already got added by the looks of it.
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Weekly's arguments didn't really hold much ground considering it's wholely derived from the chance that Weiss might freeze shulk before he could do anything, which is false given how his precognition works.
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