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Shinza Eastern Expedition Revision

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So...there's a bit of an issue here...

On their profiles, we've given them resistance to power nullification and time stop, which is a pretty weird thing tbh.

Power Nullification

So...for Power Nullification...just remove it for the love of God. They've never once resisted his abilities, in fact they even get their abilities negged by Sukuna


It showed signs of activating, but similarly to akuro's gaze, it got erased/nullified by Sukuna's single glare

Worst part is that this isn't even inconsistent, this happens again.


I mean, it's the case... We're really full naked right now. If both distortions and techniques are useless, we're basically deprived of our fangs and claws.

This was literally the thing Keishirou had to worry about in his fight against Sukuna, so idk why we're suddenly giving them resistance.



The specific section I'm referring to is roughly translated as: No wonder he made fun of the stake when it was used there. Sukuna’s origin erases every distortion aside from his own, without exceptions, and so every supernatural power there would instantly disappear.

So, it's pretty clear that no resistance to power null should be there.

Time Stop

Now, for time stop sigh

So...for Yato's time stop, there's so many things wrong with this that I can't even begin, but we'll first go with the time when Yato first interacted with the EE.



As for the specific instance, I'm lazy so I can't point that out, just watch the vid, and it should be pretty clear when it happens. I'll give the rough translations for them, tho.

Yato: That is, if you will be able to escape from there.

At that moment, he used his power. A surge of power rised, twisting and crushing to pieces, freezing things in one place. Not only us, everything around seemed to feel his distortion spreading.

Yakou: Ryuusui, tell everyone to escape from the port right now.

Yakou adressed Ryuusui and us in a sharp and loud voice, unusual for him.

Ryuusui: B-but, Yakou-sama, all the ways to escape were sealed…
Yakou: This manta has already been lifted. But this sealing is not normal. This is the freezing wind that stops even stars.
Yakou: Once you are caught in it, you cannot escape forever.
Ryuusui: No way, such technique…! Rindou-sama, please call Habaki and others there.
Rindou: Understood. Ryuusui, you go find Sakuya. I leave everything else to you, Yakou.
Ryuusui: Yes!
Habaki: That’s real bad, everyone! Faster, let’s get out of there!


With that, I moved closer to the place protected by Yakou’s and Ryuumei’s techniques.
Can we escape? No, we have to escape. Something was telling me that otherwise the fate awating us was worse than death.
Ryuumei: Alright, we’re retiring. If we’re swallowed by it, everything is over.
Keishirou: Tch…


Basically, they were getting scared shitless by a Yato, who was so ridiculously weakened that even putting a mere shadow out, which is avatar creation for Yato, was considered "too much" for him.

Momiji: You’re not in a state to do such thing!
Morei: Even just as a shadow, this is too much. I beg you, please, go back.


Now, to give some perspective as to how ridiculously weakened this Yato was, he was described as being in a near-death state throughout K3 until his "resurrection" when he was brought back to full power, where he once against uses his time stop and successfully pins down the EE.

https://w.atwiki.jp/god14/pages/90.html

That's just his Atwiki page.

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/829800047461662760/829810123379310642/image0.jpg

ゆえに、東征の烈士らも夜刀の法にはまったく抗うことが出来なかった。咲耶が、龍水が、宗次郎が、紫織が、夜行が、刑士郎が||竜胆でさえ何も認識できないまま彫像と化し、万を超える軍

Literally, only Habaki was able to resist the time stop, so he should have some kind of limited resistance seeing as there were other instances in their battle where Yato could have definitely frozen him.

There's a bit more stuff, tho...

Reality Warping and Law Manipulation for Hadou Gods

currently, for our reality warping section for Hadou Gods, we use this scan.

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/615909199544713380/736425719231545415/1.png

I genuinely wonder how nobody has pointed this out, this isn't reality warping at all. It doesn't even mention anything remotely near reality warping. There are better scans that can be used, tho.

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/615909199544713380/616967273264971787/image0.png

It's not difficult talk at all. If the aforementioned Law that exists underwater were to change into Taikyoku, All of Creation's underwater areas would also be changed to comply.

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/615909199544713380/616967326155407390/image0.png

My own Law which lets me gain total control of all things in Creation, my own Law that disconnects me from all things in Creation is Taikyoku.


Basically, this is far more blatant with reality warping than what was used earlier. As for law manip, just use the atziluth in-game page there, it says something about how they reign over all laws.



Also, the scans for Sukuna can be put into his profile, not sure why they weren't already. For his justification, you can put that he's able to casually block attacks from a Morei and Akuro that weren't holding back against him.

Reizen's Weakness

Also, Reizen should have a weakness that if enough of Hajun's power is fed to him, he can actually suffer consequences from it.

Q: 奥伝の冷泉は単純な強度で七柱を凌駕していて、地力で上回らなければ絶対に勝利できないということですが、大獄の甲胄の下を見て生きていられるのは夜刀を上回る者でなければいけない。もしも奥伝の冷泉が大獄の甲胄の下を見た場合はどうなるのでしょうか?

A: 死にますね。この場合、大獄の地力=夜刀の地力です。同じ理由で宿儺にも勝てません。ただ、波旬の加護に冷泉がどこまで耐えられるかによります。けど、まあ無理でしょう。

The esoterics (奥伝) of Reizen has him surpass the seven pillars (Yato's Legion) in plain strength, and they can never win if their own power doesn't surpass his. However, someone has to surpass Yato in order to see underneath Ootake's armor and live. What would happen if the esoterics of Reizen were to see underneath Ootake's armor?

He would die. In this case, Ootake's own power = Yato's. It's for this same reason that you cannot defeat Sukuna. It would depend how long Reizen can withstand taking Hajun's blessing but, well, that would be impossible.


He basically was unable to bear how much he was being boosted by Hajun which led to his inevitable death.
 
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I don't know why you would jump to make this, I was about to reply you about the EE resistance to time stop
Anyway for the power null and time stop I disagree

And the reality warping thing, that is actually reality warping but yes there are better examples

The Reizen stuff while unnecessary is fine
 
Why do you disagree, explain,
There are instances they resisted it anyway the thing is I wanted to make a revision, yato shticks is not time stop but the concept of stop itself.

And for the resistance to power null it is blatant, they could use their distortions even after the tenmas activated their taikyoku
 
There are instances they resisted it anyway the thing is I wanted to make a revision, yato shticks is not time stop but the concept of stop itself.

And for the resistance to power null it is blatant, they could use their distortions even after the tenmas activated their taikyoku
First of all, we mark it as time stop on their profiles due to resisting yato, which never happened other than habaki so that needs to go.
 
Idk about for the EE, Quiloth added that and he’s fully read k3 so I’m neutral.

however I am in favor of nuking it for the Yatsugsachi. Res nova— also sparch Zarathustra works by stopping everyone except ren AS WELL AS his allies.it’s not that the yatsugsachi resist his stopping, it’s that the stopping doesn’t affect them by nature
 
Idk about for the EE, Quiloth added that and he’s read k3 so I’m neutral.

however I am in favor of nuking it for the Yatsugsachi. Res nova— also sparch Zarathustra works by stopping everyone except ren AS WELL AS his allies.it’s not that the yatsugsachi resist his stopping, it’s that the stopping doesn’t affect them by nature
I don’t even think they have resistance, only the EE does. Besides, no one other than maybe hajun resists sukuna’s nullification.
 
We have a statement in the VFB that states that only someone with greater power than yato could survive sukuna’s nullification.
Yes feats says otherwise they activated their distortion after sukuna activated his taikyoku
 
Sigh I really did lose interest in fixing the verse so I can't be bothered to find scans so good luck mate
 
About the whole power null thing your links are not working, and how did you think they defeated sukuna?
 
Yes before that
Yes, because his power null turns on himself eventually lol. I’ll even add that they state that they want to fight like “men” without distortion or abilities.
 
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QB isn't that reliable given sleepy outright explained that he didn't know enough JP, in fact he used some deepL with minor grammar changes to translate JP KKK stuff here.
 
QB isn't that reliable given sleepy outright explained that he didn't know enough JP, in fact he used some deepL with minor grammar changes to translate JP KKK stuff here.
Ig that’s true, but let’s not talk bad about someone else like that.
 
I also recommend translating the original game or at least a YouTube playthrough for it. The text files are extremely clunky and don’t make logical sense for translating purposes.
 
Yes

I am saying before then

I will even say again before then
And again they could still use their distortion in sukuna presence
They couldn’t, I literally pointed it out. He just nullified all their distortions whenever they used it. Anyway, both of those resistances are extremely shaky tbh.
 
If only Mysterious @Sephiron was kind enough to come here and sort this "EE resist yato's time stop, Sukuna's law not power nulling EE" stuff out....
 
They couldn’t, I literally pointed it out. He just nullified all their distortions whenever they used it. Anyway, both of those resistances are extremely shaky tbh.
Yes at first he did, then they forcefully activated it
You can't just watch or read parts of K3 and keep spamming CRTs
 
Yes at first he did, then they forcefully activated it
You can't just watch or read parts of K3 and keep spamming CRTs
???? I’m not, tho. I already pointed out that I was planning it for some time. Besides, I conversed with yuri recently about this topic and he agreed with removing it besides resistance resistance for habaki.

besides, at this point you’re repeating yourself without making any new constructive points. No arguments have been made for the resistance to time stop as something to point out.
 
???? I’m not, tho. I already pointed out that I was planning it for some time. Besides, I conversed with yuri recently about this topic and he agreed with removing it besides resistance resistance for habaki.

besides, at this point you’re repeating yourself without making any new constructive points. No arguments have been made for the resistance to time stop as something to point out.
Sorry I am just stressed right now may post something later about it if I don't welp move on without me
 
Sorry I am just stressed right now may post something later about it if I don't welp move on without me
It’s alr, if you’re stressed then just take a small break. That’s fine. I’d rather the thread die out than someone participating in it to not be full stable mentally (didn’t mean that in an insulting manner, just that you have a lot of things going on for now)
 
Also, I added the translation for the second scan. A bit weird as to why it's not working, tho
 
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