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So this is my first post here and I’ve never done anything like this before so I hope this isn’t a complete mess but I wanted to try and calculate the specifics of Shenhe freezing Beisht’s Tsunami.
So in the late stages of one of the newest Genshin Archon Quests Shenhe freezes a massive tsunami to protect Liyue
Since she was only able to achieve this feat using her Cryo vision, her talisman spirit, which manifests from the same vision, should scale to this feat, which makes this feat combat applicable even in circumstances outside of temperature manipulation or Ice Manipulation
To work out the exact numbers of this feat, we first need to figure out the volume of this tsunami, we can see during the cutscene that it is dwarfing this rock
This rock is likely located in Liyue’s Guyun Stone Forest, since that’s where the rest of the cutscene takes place. Guyun Stone Forest (Further Abbreviated as GSF) has many similarly shaped rocks and other geographical features, which makes it hard to pinpoint exactly which one the tsunami is pictured with. In addition, Genshin does not contain any reliable resources for measurements, it seems natural at first to scale these rocks to a character model, but it’s impossible to get a complete view of these structures on camera in a way that allows you to reliably scale it to a character. The game does contain a navigator for quest locations, which rather conveniently gives the distance in metres, but this navigator only measures horizontal distances, without considering vertical distances. Rather fortunately though, there are exceptions to this rule, such as brief “challenges” scattered around the map, these have their own navigation, and due to the general short distances that apply to these challenges, their navigation considers vertical distances as well as horizontal ones. There is a challenge located on GSF, in the general area where the cutscene is likely to have taken place, that navigates you to the tip of a nearby rock. GSF is a set of islands located exactly on sea level, so all we have to do is use this navigator, standing as close to directly below the stone’s tip as we can, and we can get a rough estimate for the stone’s height. Since this is the only stone in GSF we can measure, and it seems to be in the general area where the cutscene takes place, we will assume this is the stone featured in the cutscene, the stone is 28 metres tall, which gives the tsunami a height of 152.2332 metres.
We can’t measure the length or width of the Tsunami based on the cutscene, so we will use assumptions to figure these out. Tsunamis can be up to 100 kilometres long, so that will be the (highball) figure we will use. Finding the width of a Tsunami is more difficult, but a Millileth Guard describes the “Tsunami” as “A Giant Wave”, we will use this to assume that the Tsunami only consists of a singular wave (This would make sense given its inorganic origins as an impending attack by the sea monster Beisht.) we can then use the general wavelength of a Tsunami as the width in this circumstance. This is a figure of 200km. This gives the Tsunami a volume of 3044.664 cubic kilometres. This can be converted into litres to give us a figure of 3.044664e+15 litres of water. That much water would weigh 3.04426819368E+18 grams. 333.55 Joules is required to freeze 1 gram of water at 0 degrees Celsius, so the energy needed to freeze the tsunami would be 1.0154157e+21 joules, converting that to tnt will give you 242.69017686424476 Gigatons of TNT, which is Large Island Level
Admittedly however, this is a highball estimate, the tsunami might not have been as long as I’ve estimated here, so here’s an alternative figure.
Alternative Figure:
Let’s assume that Beisht only intended for the tsunami to strike the island containing the Milileth guards, this would change the length of the tsunami from 100 kilometres to 18.2525 kilometres
Volume = 555.7272966 cubed kilometres
Litre Conversion = 5.557272966e+14 Litres
Weight = 5.5565505205144E+17 grams
Energy = 1.8533874e+20 joules
TNT Figure = 44.29702198852771744 Gigatons (Island Level)
MAIN FIGURE CONCLUSION:
This is important because Shenhe is ultimately still human. Archons such as Venti and Zhongli (In their Prime Barbatos and Geo Archon Keys respectively) and Raiden Shogun should significantly upscale to her, and Xiao should also, as one of the Adepti’s strongest, scale to her as well at a minimum (Zhongli in his Adeptus Key is also likely to scale and potentially upscale to her for similar reasons.) Shenhe doesn’t have a profile right now, but this highlights that Venti, Zhongli, Raiden Shogun and Xiao all likely deserve higher tier placements than the ones they have now.
ALTERNATIVE FIGURE CONCLUSION:
For reasons mentioned above, Xiao would likely scale and potentially upscale to Shenhe, which would lift him above his current High 7-A tiering
So in the late stages of one of the newest Genshin Archon Quests Shenhe freezes a massive tsunami to protect Liyue
Since she was only able to achieve this feat using her Cryo vision, her talisman spirit, which manifests from the same vision, should scale to this feat, which makes this feat combat applicable even in circumstances outside of temperature manipulation or Ice Manipulation
To work out the exact numbers of this feat, we first need to figure out the volume of this tsunami, we can see during the cutscene that it is dwarfing this rock
This rock is likely located in Liyue’s Guyun Stone Forest, since that’s where the rest of the cutscene takes place. Guyun Stone Forest (Further Abbreviated as GSF) has many similarly shaped rocks and other geographical features, which makes it hard to pinpoint exactly which one the tsunami is pictured with. In addition, Genshin does not contain any reliable resources for measurements, it seems natural at first to scale these rocks to a character model, but it’s impossible to get a complete view of these structures on camera in a way that allows you to reliably scale it to a character. The game does contain a navigator for quest locations, which rather conveniently gives the distance in metres, but this navigator only measures horizontal distances, without considering vertical distances. Rather fortunately though, there are exceptions to this rule, such as brief “challenges” scattered around the map, these have their own navigation, and due to the general short distances that apply to these challenges, their navigation considers vertical distances as well as horizontal ones. There is a challenge located on GSF, in the general area where the cutscene is likely to have taken place, that navigates you to the tip of a nearby rock. GSF is a set of islands located exactly on sea level, so all we have to do is use this navigator, standing as close to directly below the stone’s tip as we can, and we can get a rough estimate for the stone’s height. Since this is the only stone in GSF we can measure, and it seems to be in the general area where the cutscene takes place, we will assume this is the stone featured in the cutscene, the stone is 28 metres tall, which gives the tsunami a height of 152.2332 metres.
We can’t measure the length or width of the Tsunami based on the cutscene, so we will use assumptions to figure these out. Tsunamis can be up to 100 kilometres long, so that will be the (highball) figure we will use. Finding the width of a Tsunami is more difficult, but a Millileth Guard describes the “Tsunami” as “A Giant Wave”, we will use this to assume that the Tsunami only consists of a singular wave (This would make sense given its inorganic origins as an impending attack by the sea monster Beisht.) we can then use the general wavelength of a Tsunami as the width in this circumstance. This is a figure of 200km. This gives the Tsunami a volume of 3044.664 cubic kilometres. This can be converted into litres to give us a figure of 3.044664e+15 litres of water. That much water would weigh 3.04426819368E+18 grams. 333.55 Joules is required to freeze 1 gram of water at 0 degrees Celsius, so the energy needed to freeze the tsunami would be 1.0154157e+21 joules, converting that to tnt will give you 242.69017686424476 Gigatons of TNT, which is Large Island Level
Admittedly however, this is a highball estimate, the tsunami might not have been as long as I’ve estimated here, so here’s an alternative figure.
Alternative Figure:
Let’s assume that Beisht only intended for the tsunami to strike the island containing the Milileth guards, this would change the length of the tsunami from 100 kilometres to 18.2525 kilometres
Volume = 555.7272966 cubed kilometres
Litre Conversion = 5.557272966e+14 Litres
Weight = 5.5565505205144E+17 grams
Energy = 1.8533874e+20 joules
TNT Figure = 44.29702198852771744 Gigatons (Island Level)
MAIN FIGURE CONCLUSION:
This is important because Shenhe is ultimately still human. Archons such as Venti and Zhongli (In their Prime Barbatos and Geo Archon Keys respectively) and Raiden Shogun should significantly upscale to her, and Xiao should also, as one of the Adepti’s strongest, scale to her as well at a minimum (Zhongli in his Adeptus Key is also likely to scale and potentially upscale to her for similar reasons.) Shenhe doesn’t have a profile right now, but this highlights that Venti, Zhongli, Raiden Shogun and Xiao all likely deserve higher tier placements than the ones they have now.
ALTERNATIVE FIGURE CONCLUSION:
For reasons mentioned above, Xiao would likely scale and potentially upscale to Shenhe, which would lift him above his current High 7-A tiering
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