Shaggy vs Yuji itadori

[LadyVeldanava]

Shaggy Rogers (Cartoon)
vs
Yuji Itadori

Rules:

• Shaggy is bloodlusted / out of control
• Yuji is in-character And adjust the health regeneration to be equal to Shaggy's
• Equalized speed,Equalize HAX between both characters.
• Standard equipment But Shaggy uses the Sword of Fate.
• Battle takes place in an open field

Who wins and why?

 

[Greatsage13th]

The page you linked does not exist for Shaggy.

 

[Arkenis]

The page you linked does not exist for Shaggy.

Shaggy Rogers (Cartoon)

Norville "Shaggy" Rogers is a member of Mystery Inc., and the owner and best friend of their team's mascot: Scooby Doo, a talking Great Dane. Tier: 9-A, higher with Scooby Snacks, 7-C with the Sword of Fate Name: Norville Rogers Origin: Scooby Doo Gender: Male Age: Likely 16-20 Classification...

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[Greatsage13th]

What can Yuki do about High Mid regen?

 

[AThe1412]

What can Yuki do about High Mid regen?

Soul damage.

 

[Mommyleona]

which Yuji key

 

[Arkansalter2]

which Yuji key

We assume SBA if that's not provided so latest key. Sword of Fate Shaggy vs SS Yuji.

Now most of Shaggy's hax is kinda crap, mostly for gag reasons.

Honestly I got Yuji winning this. Yuji should outskill by a landslide and would just soul damage ooga booga him. Also domain diff.
Yuji low diff.

 

[Mommyleona]

We assume SBA if that's not provided so latest key. Sword of Fate Shaggy vs SS Yuji.

Then yuji ap stomps since

Standard equipment

And Sword of Fate is optional equipment

 

[ShionAH]

Yuji should outskill by a landslide and would just soul damage ooga booga him. Also domain diff.
Yuji low diff.

Soul damage.

Yuji’s soul damage has never done anything significant against normal sorcerers, it’s specifically only a weakness Mahito has (anyone who can see the soul can hurt him) and weakness reincarnated sorcerers have

Todo, Hanami, Hakari, Yuta, Locust Guy, Higuruma (?), Helicopter Guy all took these “soul punches” yet they did nothing special

 

[koopa3144]

Yuji’s soul damage has never done anything significant against normal sorcerers, it’s specifically only a weakness Mahito has (anyone who can see the soul can hurt him) and weakness reincarnated sorcerers have

Todo, Hanami, Hakari, Yuta, Locust Guy, Higuruma (?), Helicopter Guy all took these “soul punches” yet they did nothing special

They're referring to Yuji's Dismantles since SBA puts him in his Shinjuku Showdown key which do directly target the soul and do damage to it.

 

[ShionAH]

They're referring to Yuji's Dismantles since SBA puts him in his Shinjuku Showdown key which do directly target the soul and do damage to it.

Uh, no? Even Sukuna says right there Yuji is hitting the boundary between of their souls, its affect is useless if you only have one soul. He is like cutting the connection if you get me

 

[Mommyleona]

Uh, no? Even Sukuna says right there Yuji is hitting the boundary between of their souls, its affect is useless if you only have one soul. He is like cutting the connection if you get me

so you're saying Yuji can hit the boundary between souls, which is harder than just normally hitting the soul and needs more knowledge, yet cant damage the soul?

 

[Mommyleona]

Then yuji ap stomps since

And Sword of Fate is optional equipment

also why does everyone ignore this

 

[ShionAH]

so you're saying Yuji can hit the boundary between souls, which is harder than just normally hitting the soul and needs more knowledge, yet cant damage the soul?

Yes, because he has never shown he can just damage the soul like SSK

 

[Mommyleona]

Yes, because he has never shown he can just damage the soul like SSK

except he did, he was damaging Mahito's soul, and its literally stated he can change target of his dismantle to souls

 

[ShionAH]

except he did, he was damaging Mahito's soul, and its literally stated he can change target of his dismantle to souls

Mahito weakness, the same soul punches are healed and tanked by many normal sorcerers (Todo, Hakari, Yuta and more)

No that was never stated

 

[Arkenis]

How will he even decide that he needs to target the soul here? That's simply not something he's remotely cared to try on curses or other sorcerers unless he knew that was the weakness.

 

[Mommyleona]

Mahito weakness

yea his weakness is soul damage bravo

No that was never stated

was literally posted above

 

[ShionAH]

yea his weakness is soul damage bravo

Soul perception to be exact

was literally posted above

nothing says he can choose to hit the soul

 

[Mommyleona]

Soul perception to be exact

which lets Yuji damage his soul. Soul percep is just a part of it

nothing says he can choose to hit the soul

if he can target boundary between souls, what exactly is stopping him from targeting the soul itself? he's only hitting the boundary to specifically separate Sukuna and Megumi

 

[ShionAH]

which lets Yuji damage his soul. Soul percep is just a part of it

It didn’t do anything to other characters lol

if he can target boundary between souls, what exactly is stopping him from targeting the soul itself? he's only hitting the boundary to specifically separate Sukuna and Megumi

You said it was stated don’t turn back now, tell me where does this statement come from?

 

[Mommyleona]

It didn’t do anything to other characters lol

doesnt mean he cant, its just an inconsistency, or better yet, soul is body and body is soul in jjk, which doesnt apply to other verses

You said it was stated don’t turn back now, tell me where does this statement come from?

Im not "turning back", how can you seriously claim that he SOMEHOW cant hit the soul, but yet can perceive them and target a boundary of souls? which is still damaging souls.

 

[ShionAH]

doesnt mean he cant, its just an inconsistency, or better yet, soul is body and body is soul in jjk, which doesnt apply to other verses

No Yuji just isnt ssk, lol

Im not "turning back", how can you seriously claim that he SOMEHOW cant hit the soul, but yet can perceive them and target a boundary of souls? which is still damaging souls.

You are, you said it was a direct statement and now you are askimg why it WOULDNT be that, perceiving the soul doesnt mean you can cut the soul like Maki or whatever, and no hitting the connection between souls is not the same as hitting souls

 

[Mommyleona]

No Yuji just isnt ssk, lol

irrelevant

you said it was a direct statement

yeah i consider statement above to prove he can hit souls, period

perceiving the soul doesnt mean you can cut the soul like Maki or whatever, and no hitting the connection between souls is not the same as hitting souls

it is in jjk and it is

 

[ShionAH]

irrelevant

Ok

yeah i consider statement above to prove he can hit souls, period

Nothing proves that though, all we know is that he can hit the connection between the souls

it is in jjk and it is

Nope, thats fundamentally wrong. It goes against… well everything lol, his “soul” punches are healed and tanked by Todo, Hanami, Yuta, Hakari, Ko Guy and more. Are we gonna give all of them soul resistances and some of them soul regeneration?

 

[Mommyleona]

Nope, thats fundamentally wrong. It goes against… well everything lol, his “soul” punches are healed and tanked by Todo, Hanami, Yuta, Hakari, Ko Guy and more. Are we gonna give all of them soul resistances and some of them soul regeneration?

cool opinion, this is not a thread for that

 

[Catbowtie]

Kinda is if you’re claiming Yuji can punch people’s souls.

 

[Mommyleona]

Kinda is if you’re claiming Yuji can punch people’s souls.

it isnt, yuji has accepted soul manip with dismantle on his page, so go argue with that
and more over, this is 7-c yuji vs 9-a shaggy

 

[Catbowtie]

Not all Soul Manipulation is the same brother. Yuji doesn’t get all the applications of Soul Manip just because he has that stuff on his profile.

If you’re going to try to be evasive at least be good at it lol

 

[Delusionaltx2]

So basically yuji bullies by being tier 7

Stomp FRA

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Itadori soul punch is only useful in his last key, otherwise is just NPI

 

[Mommyleona]

Not all Soul Manipulation is the same brother. Yuji doesn’t get all the applications of Soul Manip just because he has that stuff on his profile.

who said all applications of it?

 

[Kellex]

@LadyVeldanava What keys are being used for Yuji and Shaggy? If they're both 7-C, then change allow optional equipment for Shaggy.

 

[Mommyleona]

Itadori soul punch is only useful in his last key

well apparently its not useful in ANY key and not even with soul dismantle, or so people say here

 

[ShionAH]

its useful against reincarnated sorcerers, thats what they do. I am sorry that Yuji is not a walking ssk, its just the truth.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I'm sorry about Saiki, Shion. I hope you get better soon

 

[ShionAH]

I'm sorry about Saiki, Shion. I hope you get better soon

 

[Arkansalter2]

I know who can go against either of em.

 

[LadyVeldanava]

@LadyVeldanava What keys are being used for Yuji and Shaggy? If they're both 7-C, then change allow optional equipment for Shaggy.

Shaggy Rogers (Cartoon)
vs
Yuji Itadori

Rules:

• Shaggy is bloodlusted / out of control
• Yuji is in-character And adjust the health regeneration to be equal to Shaggy's
• Equalized speed,Equalize HAX between both characters.
• Standard equipment But Shaggy uses the Sword of Fate.
• Battle takes place in an open field

Who wins and why?