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Seraphina vs John
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Don't forget that John's barrier is stronger than Arlo and it's a 10. There's must be a limit to her rewind though I'm sure of it.
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Also John's toughness is very impressive considering that when he fight the Royals, he only used Zeke's defense. John has street smarts and witty when it comes to ability, that's why he has 10 trick.
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Are you talking about Arlo Fight John?Lazaor said:
Then...
1. John can also copy Seraphina's ability, since he only has 3
2. seraphina can't stop time for 10 whole minutes
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It's kinda unfair for John right now since we know his limitations while Sera can still be an NLF. There is a chance that her Time Manipulation is like less than 7 sec like Dio and a certain limit for her rewind, or else she should stomp the verse if the author gives her like unlimited duration for timestop( she can just solo ember at this point because they're like statues and Sera has no reason to stop the duration of time stop)
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It was stated that she can only stop time for "a few seconds" on her page, so it can't be a ludicrous numberMrDrProfessorPatricio said:
Maybe I should set a resonable limit?
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A bit late, but, eh, here goes nothing. In all the cases, Seraphina wins. Let me explain why.
1. Seraphina is one level stronger than John. Seraphina's level is 8.0, while John's last recorder level was 7.0 and he hadn't used his ability since then. Even if he could copy her ability, which he can't and I'll explain below, he would likely be unable to boost its stats. 2. So you ask, "why can't he copy her ability". There are many reasons for that, but let's start with their levels. At 1.2 John could basically not do anything. He couldn't copy other people's abilities, and even if he could, they'd be ten times weaker. So, chances are he can't copy abilities that have a level greater than his. Now, on to another reason why he can't copy Sera's ability. Remember Juni? John likely couldn't copy her ability for one reason. He couldn't see it. The same likely goes for all other mental abilities, which is why John couldn't stand up to Keon. Now, for Seraphina. Her ability also has to do with time, like Juni's. Maybe that could be the reason by itself, but let's continue. Seraphina's ability doesn't enhance her. It manipulates time. And as we all know, we can't see time, can we? John also can't copy an ability iof he's frozen in time lmao. Yes, John's ability is strong, but it isn't Godly. He can copy abilities, but that doesn't enhance his level to that of those abilities. He has a pretedermined level, as seen in the leaderboard, in which he is placed second to Seraphina, which (surprise) means Seraphina is likely stronger than him. We also need to take in mind that the gap between 7.0 and 8.0 is much larger than the gap between 2.0 and 3.0. John's ability also has limitations. He can't have more than four abilities (maybe only if they have high potential), he can't copy passive abilities, and he can't copy abilities that he can't see.
Even if he somehow had all the abilities he's used before... What can a statue do against the flash?
1. Seraphina is one level stronger than John. Seraphina's level is 8.0, while John's last recorder level was 7.0 and he hadn't used his ability since then. Even if he could copy her ability, which he can't and I'll explain below, he would likely be unable to boost its stats. 2. So you ask, "why can't he copy her ability". There are many reasons for that, but let's start with their levels. At 1.2 John could basically not do anything. He couldn't copy other people's abilities, and even if he could, they'd be ten times weaker. So, chances are he can't copy abilities that have a level greater than his. Now, on to another reason why he can't copy Sera's ability. Remember Juni? John likely couldn't copy her ability for one reason. He couldn't see it. The same likely goes for all other mental abilities, which is why John couldn't stand up to Keon. Now, for Seraphina. Her ability also has to do with time, like Juni's. Maybe that could be the reason by itself, but let's continue. Seraphina's ability doesn't enhance her. It manipulates time. And as we all know, we can't see time, can we? John also can't copy an ability iof he's frozen in time lmao. Yes, John's ability is strong, but it isn't Godly. He can copy abilities, but that doesn't enhance his level to that of those abilities. He has a pretedermined level, as seen in the leaderboard, in which he is placed second to Seraphina, which (surprise) means Seraphina is likely stronger than him. We also need to take in mind that the gap between 7.0 and 8.0 is much larger than the gap between 2.0 and 3.0. John's ability also has limitations. He can't have more than four abilities (maybe only if they have high potential), he can't copy passive abilities, and he can't copy abilities that he can't see.
Even if he somehow had all the abilities he's used before... What can a statue do against the flash?
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1. Any ability John copies will have a power level much higher tha the original user's. This is most notably shown against Blyke
2. If John couldn't copy powers at a higher level than his own, then he wouldn't have been able to solo his school. Unless you're telling me his school was full of pwople with power levels lower than one point friggin two
3. Once someone's eyes start glowing he can copy their abilities. If I remember correctly, Juni never used her abilities
2. If John couldn't copy powers at a higher level than his own, then he wouldn't have been able to solo his school. Unless you're telling me his school was full of pwople with power levels lower than one point friggin two
3. Once someone's eyes start glowing he can copy their abilities. If I remember correctly, Juni never used her abilities
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No. Earl seems to be correct in that John cannot copy abilities that he cannot see.
However, since his stats adapt to abilities he copies, he should be able to copy any ability that he can see. There has been no hint that he cannot copy a higher level ability. Additionally, there's not much reason as to why he should still be a 7.0. It's certainly possible, but if his level can shoot up before without him doing much, then I've no reason why it would stay exactly the same considering all the training he's put his body through.
However, since his stats adapt to abilities he copies, he should be able to copy any ability that he can see. There has been no hint that he cannot copy a higher level ability. Additionally, there's not much reason as to why he should still be a 7.0. It's certainly possible, but if his level can shoot up before without him doing much, then I've no reason why it would stay exactly the same considering all the training he's put his body through.
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well we'll never know until uru-chan states it herself
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well i really do wanna c a stand off between these 2 becuz it'll be intresting plus think bout it if during the ep 171 even sera admits he's the most powerful kid in the region and dosen't mentions herslf since she knows she powerful even after she lost her ability maybe I'm wrong becuz i thought she would at least mentions herself IDK (uru-chan trying to trick us). Also Isen metions that John maybe the strongest ep 136 but it says may and this was after sera lost her abilities what do u think.
John is able to copy the abilities and has a limits like maybe he can't use such skilled abilties like arlo said or 4 is his limit but i think by now john has already has imporved his ability by along shot and may have powered up since he did beat up all the royals and cosidering Wellston is No.1 also arlo on the god-tier all the others are aslo high rankers and he took them out so he could maybe maybe surpass sera, he has been exposed to countless powerful abilities even sera's and even the fight between him and blake it says it wasn't an exact copy but was a more upgraded version, and sera can use her ability to stop time but only for a few sec and considering that John can copy abilities but an upgraded version he could rewind sera's ability to unstuck himself and could freez time longer and depeneding how strong the people who he's fighting the stronger he becomes.
John is able to copy the abilities and has a limits like maybe he can't use such skilled abilties like arlo said or 4 is his limit but i think by now john has already has imporved his ability by along shot and may have powered up since he did beat up all the royals and cosidering Wellston is No.1 also arlo on the god-tier all the others are aslo high rankers and he took them out so he could maybe maybe surpass sera, he has been exposed to countless powerful abilities even sera's and even the fight between him and blake it says it wasn't an exact copy but was a more upgraded version, and sera can use her ability to stop time but only for a few sec and considering that John can copy abilities but an upgraded version he could rewind sera's ability to unstuck himself and could freez time longer and depeneding how strong the people who he's fighting the stronger he becomes.
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During the first few eps one of the character did mention that sera was able to take down their entire roster but they don't really have people who are high-tier like Wellston IF she were to TRY taking down arlo, remi, blake, and isen she could freeze but ONLY FOR A FEW SEC so she could knock them down but her time freeze will ware off then they will start to move, then im guessing the in order to stop her arlo could use he barrier to stop her then remi could zap like what the did to john so sera would try to freeze time then punch her way out and keep rewinding over and over to save her arm or she could just punch it and then wham break IDK like in thr 1st few eps and when time stops she maybe get zapped up by remi but she can't keep rewinding herself over and over again and is she were to get out isen and blake would team up but she would freeze them even if she did it still it like an on and off switch she can't keep up like if u play with the light it can over heat and shatter ot burn down. BUT THO WILL SHE END UP VICTORIUS LIKE JOHN OR WILL SHE SHATTER/ BURN HERSELF OUT? AHHHHHHAH H THIS COULD GO ANYWHERE!!!!!!!
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