Satsuki vs meliodas Low 7-B

[Livinmeme]

Satsuki FRA. I haven't seen any decent reasons for Meliodas to take this barring "hellblaze" or "3000+ years of combat experience".

Hellblaze is a good reason, one hellblaze and satsuki gets vaporized

 

[speedster352]

Are you being purposely thick-headed? You and speester seem to want Bakuzan restricted because it's one of Sats' main wincons. Hellblaze is one of Meliodas's main wincons. It is the exact copy/paste same difference. If you don't, then we're done here.

Which doesn't mean that Meliodas can't do anything about that and win. He has a wincon lmao

And passive fear aura and night and rage amps

 

[Livinmeme]

Are you being purposely thick-headed? You and speester seem to want Bakuzan restricted because it's one of Sats' main wincons. Hellblaze is one of Meliodas's main wincons. It is the exact copy/paste same difference. If you don't, then we're done here.

Which doesn't mean that Meliodas can't do anything about that and win. He has a wincon lmao

....no

You know i am arguing that neither hellfire and bakuzan can't be restricted

Even if you could restrict standards weapons (wich you can't)

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Hellblaze is a good reason, one hellblaze and satsuki gets vaporized

I mean yeah if it hits

 

[Arkenis]

Yea so the characters have win cons and they are really good win cons, I'm having trouble understanding why speedster thinks stomp but whatever.

 

[azontr]

Hellblaze is a good reason, one hellblaze and satsuki gets vaporized

Hellblaze can be dodged and all it takes is 1 or 2 cuts to end Meliodas. I never said it was a bad argument, also, I just haven't heard any other reasons that convince me that Meliodas reasonably takes this.

 

[speedster352]

Hellblaze can be dodged and all it takes is 1 or 2 cuts to end Meliodas. I never said it was a bad argument, also, I just haven't heard any other reasons that convince me that Meliodas reasonably takes this.

Passive fear aura and night and rage amps hellblaze has a lot of aoe

 

[azontr]

And passive fear aura and night and rage amps

1. His fear Aura isn't passive.

2. The OP hasn't said its night.

 

[Arkenis]

I wanna note that Sat can just blast hellblaze away with her shockwaves.

 

[azontr]

Passive fear aura and night and rage amps hellblaze has a lot of aoe

1. His fear Aura isn't passive.

2. The OP hasn't said its night.

How much aoe does Hellblaze have?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I wanna note that Sat can just blast hellblaze away with her shockwaves.

I was just about to say this

 

[speedster352]

1. His fear Aura isn't passive.

2. The OP hasn't said its night.

The op agreed to night time

• Aura, Fear Manipulation, Paralaysis Inducement, Enhanced Senses: Just with mere presence they can make a weaker being like Hendriskson feel fear and paralyzed. The Sins were scared by Monspeet's aura. Galand can make Diane scared, his sheer presence completely overwhelmed Slader's Overpower magic.

 

[Livinmeme]

I mean yeah if it hits

Wich it can because it hitted a good chunk of a forest?

 

[Arkenis]

How much aoe does Hellblaze have?

Hundreds of meters at least. likely kilometers.

 

[speedster352]

How much aoe does Hellblaze have?

Look at Meliodas profile

I was just about to say this

A hellblaze slash will do serious damage that can't be healed

 

[Livinmeme]

Hellblaze can be dodged and all it takes is 1 or 2 cuts to end Meliodas. I never said it was a bad argument, also, I just haven't heard any other reasons that convince me that Meliodas reasonably takes this.

The problem is that hellblaze can be done, as a full AOE atack so meh

 

[DaReaperMan]

The op agreed to night time

• Aura, Fear Manipulation, Paralaysis Inducement, Enhanced Senses: Just with mere presence they can make a weaker being like Hendriskson feel fear and paralyzed. The Sins were scared by Monspeet's aura. Galand can make Diane scared, his sheer presence completely overwhelmed Slader's Overpower magic.

Which Meliodas has never shown, ever. a passive can be OOC to actually use.

 

[azontr]

The op agreed to night time

• Aura, Fear Manipulation, Paralaysis Inducement, Enhanced Senses: Just with mere presence they can make a weaker being like Hendriskson feel fear and paralyzed. The Sins were scared by Monspeet's aura. Galand can make Diane scared, his sheer presence completely overwhelmed Slader's Overpower magic.

The OP hasn't put it in the OP.

If the fear aura was passive then a lot more characters would have a fear resistance.

Satsuki can resist this with supernatural willpower if the fear isn't layered.

Hellblaze can be blown away with shockwaves.

 

[speedster352]

Which Meliodas has never shown, ever. a passive can be OOC to actually use.

It is ic his aura is above galand so it's passive

 

[Arkenis]

I was just about to say this

 

[Livinmeme]

Oh yeah also would bootleg shadow clones matter here? while yeah they are weaker than meliodas they still can be used to overwhelm

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

The problem is that hellblaze can be done, as a full AOE atack so meh

Yea and can be blowned away by shock waves

 

[azontr]

Are there any arguments saying that Satsuki is incapable of flexing her willpower and simply blowing hellblaze away? Her shockwaves have kilometers in range.

 

[Arkenis]

Like I said before.

meliodas's fear hax isn't passive otherwise everyone in the verse would have resistance to the fear hax. Ban doesn't have it, Diane doesn't have it, King doesn't have it yet all these characters stand around this supposed passive fear aura. Either its passive or the verse needs a big crt to address this.

 

[Arkenis]

Oh yeah also would bootleg shadow clones matter here? while yeah they are weaker than meliodas they still can be used to overwhelm

yea they matter. its good for distracting and can trick up Sat

 

[Livinmeme]

The fear manipulation was deemed as passive in the CRT. If the passives actually matter is another discussion

 

[speedster352]

Are there any arguments saying that Satsuki is incapable of flexing her willpower and simply blowing hellblaze away? Her shockwaves have kilometers in range.

Meliodas can FC her attacks or his own to one shot her

 

[Livinmeme]

Yea and can be blowned away by shock waves

Pretty sure that hellfire can't be blowed away like generic fire, and even the heat would seriously damage satsuki

 

[azontr]

The fear manipulation was deemed as passive in the CRT. If the passives actually matter is another discussion

Then another CRT needs to be made to grant other characters resistances to this passive.

Meliodas can FC her attacks or his own to one shot her

Can he FC kilometer long shockwaves?

 

[DaReaperMan]

It is ic his aura is above galand so it's passive

I would like a scan of his fear aura doing something from Meliodas himself, if you cannot find it that isn't easily dismissable as another power entirely, then it's not IC.

The fear manipulation was deemed as passive in the CRT. If the passives actually matter is another discussion

Yes, and said CRT can be wrong lmao

 

[Arkenis]

Meliodas can FC her attacks or his own to one shot her

isn't fc only magic based attacks? And I don't think bros gonna fc a 6-A slash from Bakuzan, she's breaking his sword.

 

[Arkenis]

Pretty sure that hellfire can't be blowed away like generic fire

Why?

 

[speedster352]

Then another CRT needs to be made to grant other characters resistances to this passive.

Can he FC kilometer long shockwaves?

Yep here he can FC any non physical attack

 

[Livinmeme]

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Then another CRT needs to be made to grant other characters resistances to this passive.

Can he FC kilometer long shockwaves?

Then that is for another CRT

 

[speedster352]

Why?

Becuase hellbaze cannot be put out by any normal means and has resistance negation Meliodas uses hellblaze to amp his physical attacks

 

[azontr]

Yep here he can FC any non physical attack

That's not evidence. You just sent me to another message in this thread. Not to a scan or a CRT or any form of evidence.

 

[Livinmeme]

Why?

1. Is in the range of kilometers
2. Can't be existinguished
3. Just the heat would affect satsuki big time

 

[DaReaperMan]

Then that is for another CRT

Make it then, make NNT better, cause damn it's shit on the wiki RN.

 

[speedster352]

That's not evidence. You just sent me to another message in this thread. Not to a scan or a CRT or any form of evidence.

Attack Reflection (Can reflect magic attacks and amplify them. Meliodas has also shown the ability to reflect non magical Darkness and Lightning),

 

[DaReaperMan]

1. Is in the range of kilometers
2. Can't be existinguished
3. Just the heat would affect satsuki big time

So is Satsuki's.
Never said the ground can't be leveled
Satsuki casually stands around rock-melting heat from Ryuko regularly