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Satan and Devilman Revision ( Done right this time)

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Basically agree with what Tman766 said.

But in addition i disagree with space-time manipulation since we don't give eevry universe creator that.
 
@ Celestial Pegasus he already has space-time manipulation in his profile i only ask to change the description
 
Low 2-C seems fine to me

Though, I disagree with Law / Physics Manipulation, as we don't give such abilities to every single Creator God that we have profiles for. Creation is far more reasonable

Nonexistent Physiology also is unfounded here. The closest thing I can get from this is that the Giants lived before the Universe solified into the state it is today, and this doesn't really warrant anything of the sort
 
I think that Ultima Reality makes sense.

Anyway, since the Low 2-C upgrade has been accepted by the staff, I think that it can be applied.
 
Please explain.
 
Adding Creation should probably be fine. I am uncertain about void manipulation.
 
Dont worry about creation he already has that. The only thing i ask to add the fact that Satan created the Violence Jack verse.
 
Well, do you have any further proof for void manipulation?
 
The best proof i found came all from Violence Jack

Jack explains that Satan is a Divine being that can destroy and recreate the world

Its Jack who states what Satan true intentions that Satan is trying to return Kanto and everyone into Nothing agai

Jack explains if Honey were unable to save Satan he would be revived and would return this world into nothing agai

This means at the end of Devilman there was nothing left of the world only Satan. Or as The manga likes to puts it back in its purest state sinds the beginning of time

This also goes hand in hand with Satan having the same power as God over creation creating things out of nothing only by using his own imagenation it would only makes senses that Satan can also return things into nothing

The only reason why he couldt return the world into nothing was because Jack

In my opinion this fits well with the description of Void_Manipulation
 
I think that void manipulation seems fine then.
 
Okay. Remember to make an effort to edit in a high quality manner,
 
I already added it. I also want to say that because of the new description of the High-Godly Regenerationn, 5-B Demons' Regenerationn should be High-Godly. Erasure of the Space-Time continuum can count as Higher-Dimensional erasure, and demons can regen from it. It's the same instance as the Mid-Godly justification. Areku sent me a page that he recreated the universe, not just the planet.
 
That makes indeed sense because i orignally want to bring it up but wasnt so sure about it myself
 
And i dont think we have to bring up the whole 4-D and 5-D stuff from Devilman Saga again
 
I agree that we cannot have an image that shows genitalia.
 
Anyway, since the edits have been made, should we close this thread?
 
@Antvasima There is only one thing left thats is the High-Godly Regen stuff
 
Okay. Please provide a summary of that issue.
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear said:
I already added it. I also want to say that because of the new description of the High-Godly Regenerationn, 5-B Demons' Regenerationn should be High-Godly. Erasure of the Space-Time continuum can count as Higher-Dimensional erasure, and demons can regen from it. It's the same instance as the Mid-Godly justification. Areku sent me a page that he recreated the universe, not just the planet.
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Pretty much this.
 
Has Satan or Devilman regenerated from complete erasure of themselves and the reality structure that they are present within?
 
They are restored after a full reset/erase of the universe:

  • In Violence Jack, Satan has fully recovered from the erasures of the old universe
  • In Devilman Crybaby, Jenny mentions that Satan is still weak after a previous battle with God (when God creating a new reality, his completely rewrites the space and time of the universe)
  • Space and time in the Devilman universe, includes the material world as well as the Heavens (God realm) and the Hell, which includes its own dimension, Underworld (Hades realm) and they all exist simultaneously as independent universes (that confirmed several times) created by God (except to the world of Hades)
  • Hades is also able to recreate the universe, as he directly stated to Akira, in exchange for a deal - Devilman will kill his worst enemy, and Hades will recreate the old world and will not erase the existence of Miki
  • Hades made a deal because he was very weak having spent the greater part of his power to restore the essence of his wife and he needed to urgently restore their own reality in which the souls of the dead arrive after death
  • Given that God's abilities span the entire universe, and he is able to harm Satan, that the ability of demons to recover after the creation of a new universe is justified
  • Proof for their Universal+ level - Satan said Õ«çÕ«Ö, wich mean universe, and taking into account that Violence Jack universe created by Satan after the original story for his own reasons and occur in a parallel world, outside this universe, he needed in the beginning to recreate themselves and only then the universe (God erase Satan existence at the end of Devilma together with the old universe).
Note: Even after the erasure of existence, demons can exist as a pure will. Also only in the material world they limited by the body (which are possessed), and their real form can be restored even after erasure of existence of universe.
 
If they exist as Pure Will even after erasure and Regen from it, shouldn't it actually be Low-Godly??? Because after erasure, you or any aspect of your being should not even exist. I think Satan was erased on a physical level only along with the Universe and was restored from his will.
 
Existing as pure will and then regenerating means Low-Godly, yes, and surviving the destruction of a universe is not automatically the same as High-Godly Regenerationn, unless a character was completely eradicated in the process.
 
The demons' will is not mind, soul or consciousness - it is something that exists outside of the ordinary three-dimensional universe as they experience it every time. In addition, God erases all aspects of the existing universe, so the word survive here is not very suitable - they completely disappear in the process, which means the need to recover not just from the mind but from a completely different level (absolutely all physical bodies are only the embodiments in the case of Satan, and possessed people, in the case of demons, and even the weakest demons, whose strength does not exceed the wall, recover from it every time). To sum up what i said - they do not regenerate on a three-dimensional level, because the universal structure at the four-dimensional level is completely erased by God, and only the strongest creatures like Satan and Amon, can resist this fully, but only their in full-power, otherwise, they again completely disappear. Does this is fit regenerating to totality erasing?
 
Well, I am uncertain and would prefer more community input.
 
Then it's just Mid-Godly. Low 2-C is at 4-D already and 4-D erasure on 4-D being is Mid-Godly (obviously). It's not High-Godly after all, eh?
 
I would appreciate some staff input here.
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear said:
Low 2-C is at 4-D already and 4-D erasure on 4-D being is Mid-Godly
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Demons' recover after their existence is erased, alongside the reality that they are present within (3-D) that exists up to they own dimensional level (4-D). After all, God erases it's all.
 
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