Sans vs Uzi Doorman

[VIZION99]

Rules:
Both are in character.
Uzi's solver form and absolute solver abilities will be used.
Speed is equal.
Takes place in judgment hall
Sans: 7 (@TheOrangeGuy09, Ebihara, @CastoriceTheFifth, @FinePoint, @Catbowtie, @DaReaperMan, @Comiphorous
vs
Uzi: 4 (@VIZION99, @koopa3144, @Arkansalter2, @ArthurBeyy,

Uzi's advantages:
is a better fighter.
More aggressive
Absolute Solver powers could end the fight quickly.

Sans's advantage:
He is smarter
His durability negation could worn down Uzi quickly.
His ability to break the fourth wall could complicate the fight.

 

[VIZION99]

I will be the first one to vote. It's Uzi, the reason why is because his immorality and regeneration makes it harder for to kill. She would likely strike first due to being more aggressive. She could kill Sans using blackhole creation, telekinesis, Explosion Manipulation and so on. The reason why the fight is not a stomp is because Sans still has a decent chance.

His durability negation and Danmaku can damage Uzi beyond repair. His is much more likely to teleport and his ability to break the fourth wall makes him unpredictable. He is more likely able to come up a plan by beating Uzi due being smarter. Due to his attacks being intangible. Uzi can't blocked the attacks either.

Uzi still has the slight edge however. Since she could end the fight quickly using the absolute solver.

 

[Ebihara]

I am not seeing how uzi has the edge here based on what you said? san is going to open dura nega danmaku. is uzi going to open with blackhole off the bat littearly the second the fight starts? The way I see this going is sans does his danmkau and uzi gets 1 shot and destroyred cause she is going to get hit.

not a vote btw.

 

[VIZION99]

I am not seeing how uzi has the edge here based on what you said? san is going to open dura nega danmaku. is uzi going to open with blackhole off the bat littearly the second the fight starts? The way I see this going is sans does his danmkau and uzi gets 1 shot and destroyred cause she is going to get hit.

not a vote btw.

Uzi can use abilities like blackhole manipulation, explosion manipulation, telekinesis, and others abilities to quickly kill him.

 

[VIZION99]

I am not seeing how uzi has the edge here based on what you said? san is going to open dura nega danmaku. is uzi going to open with blackhole off the bat littearly the second the fight starts? The way I see this going is sans does his danmkau and uzi gets 1 shot and destroyred cause she is going to get hit.

not a vote btw.

Also. Sans's karma is not a insta-kill ability. It just bypasses durability and deals poison damage.

 

[FinePoint]

Also. Sans's karma is not a insta-kill ability. It just bypasses durability and deals poison damage.

Does Uzi even have a soul?

 

[VIZION99]

Does Uzi even have a soul?

No because of inorganic physiology type 2

 

[koopa3144]

Erm Uzi has IA, which means she can avoid any attack ever, just like Sans.
Pretty sure there's nothing stopping Uzi from just blowing Sans up or crushing him with the Solver as soon as the fight starts.

Does Uzi even have a soul?

Sans' karma works on soulless beings like Flowey, so its gonna affect Uzi even though shes a robot.

 

[VIZION99]

Erm Uzi has IA, which means she can avoid any attack ever, just like Sans.
Pretty sure there's nothing stopping Uzi from just blowing Sans up or crushing him with the Solver as soon as the fight starts.

Sans' karma works on soulless beings like Flowey, so its gonna affect Uzi even though shes a robot.

Given that this is Solver Uzi, she could either do that to try to attack Sans directly.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Also. Sans's karma is not a insta-kill ability. It just bypasses durability and deals poison damage.

Uzi is assumed to have 20 HP, and Sans destroys 20 HP in less than a second.

Pretty sure there's nothing stopping Uzi from just blowing Sans up or crushing him with the Solver as soon as the fight starts.

This is pretty much a stomp lol.

 

[VIZION99]

Uzi is assumed to have 20 HP, and Sans destroys 20 HP in less than a second.

This is pretty much a stomp lol.

Dodging would not avoid the absolute solver.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Can someone give a good reason why I shouldn't close this match right now for being a stomp? Uzi has type 2 Inorganic Physiology, how is Sans going to be able to affect her?

 

[VIZION99]

Can someone give a good reason why I shouldn't close this match right now for being a stomp? Uzi has type 2 Inorganic Physiology, how is Sans going to be able to affect her?

Sans has durability negation

 

[VIZION99]

Uzi is assumed to have 20 HP, and Sans destroys 20 HP in less than a second.

This is pretty much a stomp lol.

1. 20 HP is probably a game mechanic.
2. Even if it was a part of undertakes lore. Verse equalization won't allow that.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Can someone give a good reason why I shouldn't close this match right now for being a stomp? Uzi has type 2 Inorganic Physiology, how is Sans going to be able to affect her?

It was addressed earlier in the matchup AND in Sans' profile:

Sans' karma works on soulless beings like Flowey, so its gonna affect Uzi even though shes a robot.

Heavily implied to be capable of affecting Flowey, who lacks a SOUL[2]

1. 20 HP is probably a game mechanic.
2. Even if it was a part of undertakes lore. Verse equalization won't allow that.

It is a standard assumption for the matchups.

 

[koopa3144]

1. 20 HP is probably a game mechanic.
2. Even if it was a part of undertakes lore. Verse equalization won't allow that.

Iirc there was a crt establishing that non-undertale peeps only have 20 hp in threads.

 

[VIZION99]

It was addressed earlier in the matchup AND in Sans' profile:




It is a standard assumption for the matchups.

It mentions this for characters with a soul. Since Uzi has no soul. Durability Negation would still affect her but less damage.

 

[VIZION99]

Also. Uzi's absolute solver abilities would kill Sans faster while his karma would be slower.

 

[koopa3144]

It mentions this for characters with a soul. Since Uzi has no soul. Durability Negation would still affect her but less damage.

Regardless of whether she has a soul or not, it's gonna be assumed she only has 20 hp. Also, if Sans' Durability Negation were less effect, then that would give more credence to this being a stomp.

 

[VIZION99]

Regardless of whether she has a soul or not, it's gonna be assumed she only has 20 hp. Also, if Sans' Durability Negation were less effect, then that would give more credence to this being a stomp.

I am not even sure if Sans' durability negation would have less effect. His profile implies it affects soulless being the same way as normal beings. And even if Uzi has 20 hp, she has enough time to kill Sans due to how quickly she can use absolute solver abilities like snapping his neck with telekinesis or blowing him up with explosion manipulation.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

It mentions this for characters with a soul. Since Uzi has no soul. Durability Negation would still affect her but less damage.

The same principle applies lol.

I don’t see how Uzi doesn’t get danmaku’d & dura negged in the first couple of seconds, maybe less.

 

[VIZION99]

The same principle applies lol.

I don’t see how Uzi doesn’t get danmaku’d & dura negged in the first couple of seconds, maybe less.

Uzi can use telekinesis to break Sans's neck in a second. It honestly depends who strikes first but it is more likely Uzi due to being more aggressive. Uzi can also use flight and acrobatics to dodge Sans's attacks.

 

[koopa3144]

The same principle applies lol.

I don’t see how Uzi doesn’t get danmaku’d & dura negged in the first couple of seconds, maybe less.

Sans' gravity manip won't work cause Uzi lacks a soul and has a higher LS + flight, so she doesn't just die instantly to the beginning part of Sans' first attack. As for the rest of the attack, she can easily stop Sans' bones in place with the Solver's TK, which doesn't require any movement. This isn't accounting for Uzi just pasting Sans' with the Solver off rip before he can even fully get the attack off.

Like I implied before, I feel like this is a stomp for Uzi since she can avoid Sans' first attack and kill him instantly with the Solver's TK.

 

[VIZION99]

Sans' gravity manip won't work cause Uzi lacks a soul and has a higher LS + flight, so she doesn't just die instantly to the beginning part of Sans' first attack. As for the rest of the attack, she can easily stop Sans' bones in place with the Solver's TK, which doesn't require any movement. This isn't accounting for Uzi just pasting Sans' with the Solver off rip before he can even fully get the attack off.

Like I implied before, I feel like this is a stomp for Uzi since she can avoid Sans' first attack and kill him instantly with the Solver's TK.

Wouldn't Sans's toon force, breaking the fourth wall, and his ability to teleport himself and Uzi allow him to survive longer?

 

[koopa3144]

Sans's toon force

Sans' toon force gives anything helpful in combat.

breaking the fourth wall

Him indefinitely extending his turn could work, but he only uses that as a final trump card in battle. Since there's a good chance this fight isn't gonna last very long, he's not gonna get the chance to use it.

his ability to teleport himself and Uzi

Sans doesn't teleport himself out of the way of attacks and doesn't have a motive to use it to avoid attacks here, since he has no reason to suspect he's gonna get crushed to death by TK.

 

[VIZION99]

Sans' toon force gives anything helpful in combat.

Him indefinitely extending his turn could work, but he only uses that as a final trump card in battle. Since there's a good chance this fight isn't gonna last very long, he's not gonna get the chance to use it.

Sans doesn't teleport himself out of the way of attacks and doesn't have a motive to use it to avoid attacks here, since he has no reason to suspect he's gonna get crushed to death by TK.

You are right but there is another important factor. Uzi's berserk mode may cause her to fight more erratically, making it possible for Sans to catch her off guard with his bones attack. This is proven in episode 4 where N caught Uzi off guard when she was about to kill V.

 

[VIZION99]

Another reason why it's not a stomp is Sans's durability negation gives him the potential to kill Uzi quickly too.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Sans' gravity manip won't work cause Uzi lacks a soul and has a higher LS + flight, so she doesn't just die instantly to the beginning part of Sans' first attack.

Bones will still spam-kill Uzi.

As for the rest of the attack, she can easily stop Sans' bones in place with the Solver's TK, which doesn't require any movement.

Bones are intangible.

This isn't accounting for Uzi just pasting Sans' with the Solver off rip before he can even fully get the attack off.

Dodge, teleport, everything. Sans has IA + higher reaction speed.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Uzi can use telekinesis to break Sans's neck in a second.

Show me where Uzi leaded with that in-character. Also, what’s the AP of telekinesis?

It honestly depends who strikes first but it is more likely Uzi due to being more aggressive.

Not really.

Uzi can also use flight and acrobatics to dodge Sans's attacks.

Show me where Uzi dodged danmaku on Sans kevel.

 

[VIZION99]

Bones will still spam-kill Uzi.

Immorality and regeneration

Bones are intangible.

Telekinesis would involve moving things without physical contact

Dodge, teleport, everything. Sans has IA + higher reaction speed.

Speed is equalized. Sans is not shown to use teleport to avoid attacks in character. Uzi also has IA.

 

[VIZION99]

Show me where Uzi leaded with that in-character. Also, what’s the AP of telekinesis?

You are right that Uzi has not really shown using telekinesis to attack but explosion manipulation will do fine

Not really.

Pretty sure the character with berserk mode will probably attack first

Show me where Uzi dodged danmaku on Sans kevel.

Why should we assumed Uzi can't dodge danmaku on Sans's level. Frisk has no flight, acrobatics, or Instinctive Action but they dodged it. Uzi would be able to dodge better for having these three abilities.

 

[VIZION99]

I am not seeing how uzi has the edge here based on what you said? san is going to open dura nega danmaku. is uzi going to open with blackhole off the bat littearly the second the fight starts? The way I see this going is sans does his danmkau and uzi gets 1 shot and destroyred cause she is going to get hit.

not a vote btw.

Have you decided who to vote?

 

[VIZION99]

Does Uzi even have a soul?

Have you decide who to vote yet?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

You are right that Uzi has not really shown using telekinesis to attack but explosion manipulation will do fine

Dodge

Pretty sure the character with berserk mode will probably attack first

Dodge

Why should we assumed Uzi can't dodge danmaku on Sans's level

Because no feats are provided?

Frisk has no flight, acrobatics, or Instinctive Action but they dodged it

They defeated Undyne the Undying. Are we back in 2016 where “monsters are weak can’t even beat a small kid”?

Uzi would be able to dodge better for having these three abilities.

Baseless claim, show me skill feats

 

[FinePoint]

I don’t see how Uzi doesn’t get danmaku’d & dura negged in the first couple of seconds, maybe less.

To be fair Sans yaps a lot before his first attack canonically.

 

[VIZION99]

To be fair Sans yaps a lot before his first attack canonically.

So you are voting for Uzi then?

 

[FinePoint]

So you are voting for Uzi then?

No, I'm just disagreeing with the notion that Sans will instantly kill them in a few seconds without giving them a chance to react.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

To be fair Sans yaps a lot before his first attack canonically.

Yapping is a free action

 

[VIZION99]

Dodge

Explosion Manipulation will cause Sans's heart to explode, not something he can dodge or just open a blackhole on top of Sans.

Dodge

If Uzi uses melee attacks sure but Uzi can also use absolute solver powers which are not dodgeable.

Because no feats are provided?

Ok

They defeated Undyne the Undying. Are we back in 2016 where “monsters are weak can’t even beat a small kid”?

True

Baseless claim, show me skill feats

Ok fine, Uzi may not be as skilled as Frisk in dodging attacks but her genius intelligence, flight, acrobatics, and Instinctive Action would make it up for it. It would allow her to avoid some attacks before being overwhelm though she is more likely to finish off Sans before he could finish her off.

 

[FinePoint]

Actually, I will vote for Uzi.