Sans vs Uzi Doorman

[ArthurBeyy]

I'll take that as a no.

Looking through the profile, it does not appear Uzi even uses their strongest haxes like Blackhole creation on people at all and largely doesn't start with many of the haxes that would allow Uzi to immediately kill sans like this thread seems to imply. so i'll stick with voting for Sans for those reasons.

We actively are attempting to but you are deciding not to answer questions nor provide proof. it is difficult to have an engaging rebuttal when you won't be engaging.

Let’s be clear here the burden of proof goes both ways. You’re asking for scans of Uzi using Absolute Solver hax as an opener, but conveniently ignoring that Sans himself has only one scripted fight in the entire game. That means his behavior is just as linear and predictable, making the “he one-shots” argument extremely surface-level and lacking nuance.As for the black hole ability or other haxes: Uzi doesn’t need to open with them in every case. We argue that her scaling, reaction time, and Absolute Solver’s passive effects are enough to counter Sans' gimmicks. The AoE isn’t the only wincon here.Also, dismissing counterpoints as “not engaging” because you don’t like how they're framed isn’t a valid dismissal. We’ve been providing reasoning and references if you don’t accept them, argue why, don’t deflect.Already, has 3A feat and dura neg.

 

[Comiphorous]

Let’s be clear here the burden of proof goes both ways. You’re asking for scans of Uzi using Absolute Solver hax as an opener, but conveniently ignoring that Sans himself has only one scripted fight in the entire game. That means his behavior is just as linear and predictable,

It is predictable for someone who reverses time and resurrects and has several tries against him, Uzi does not have that, and therefore is going into this fight without that predictability sans would otherwise have against that very specific niche of a fighter

That means his behavior is just as linear and predictable, making the “he one-shots” argument extremely surface-level and lacking nuance.

Okay but it's true.

As for the black hole ability or other haxes: Uzi doesn’t need to open with them in every case.

You could have just said this.

We argue that her scaling, reaction time, and Absolute Solver’s passive effects are enough to counter Sans' gimmicks. The AoE isn’t the only wincon here.Also, dismissing counterpoints as “not engaging” because you don’t like how they're framed isn’t a valid dismissal. We’ve been providing reasoning and references if you don’t accept them, argue why, don’t deflect.Already, has 3A feat and dura neg.

Scaling doesn't matter, as both kill eachother immediately in this.

Sans has the superior reaction time why would that be in Uzi's favor of winning?

What passives, the profile does not make it clear which abilities are passive and which are not

I'm not dismissing your counterpoints im asking you to just provide a video and you refuse to. that isn't "reasonable references" when theres the lack thereof. Although this conversation has answered my question about whether or not they opened up with it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Just dropping “Sans FRA” without engaging with the ongoing rebuttals isn’t contributing much. Multiple points have been raised about Uzi’s AoE potential, Absolute Solver scaling, and reactive feats that you’re glossing over. If you're voting, at least acknowledge the counterarguments or specify why you still side with Sans despite them Otherwise, it comes off as dismissive bandwagoning I'm vote Uzi

I asked for a simple thing, gave the reasoning that Sans can end the fight in less than a second, and that it is incredibly IC for him to start off that way due to having a single fight period, and even said I'd vote for Uzi if there was proof her first move was AoE. You haven't proven that, so I'm voting Sans. Simple as that.

Does Uzi talk at all, does she hesitate even for an instant? Does she try to use melee? Does she use stuff that can be dodged? If she does literally anything I just listed, Sans gibs her.

Looking through the profile, it does not appear Uzi even uses their strongest haxes like Blackhole creation on people at all and largely doesn't start with many of the haxes that would allow Uzi to immediately kill sans like this thread seems to imply.

And of course, this is a thing.

Let’s be clear here the burden of proof goes both ways. You’re asking for scans of Uzi using Absolute Solver hax as an opener, but conveniently ignoring that Sans himself has only one scripted fight in the entire game. That means his behavior is just as linear and predictable, making the “he one-shots” argument extremely surface-level and lacking nuance.As for the black hole ability or other haxes: Uzi doesn’t need to open with them in every case. We argue that her scaling, reaction time, and Absolute Solver’s passive effects are enough to counter Sans' gimmicks. The AoE isn’t the only wincon here.Also, dismissing counterpoints as “not engaging” because you don’t like how they're framed isn’t a valid dismissal. We’ve been providing reasoning and references if you don’t accept them, argue why, don’t deflect.Already, has 3A feat and dura neg.

Yeah, Sans has one fight. In this fight, if you look at literally any lets play of Undertale that does Genocide, he ******* murders 95% of gamers who have True Flight and can survive over 4x as long as Uzi in contact with Sans's attacks on their first time through with him.

Potato quality but to go through everything that can go wrong... If Uzi doesn't immediately jump she's dead, if she doesn't have true flight(She doesn't) she's dead on the second attack, and if she doesn't dodge the Gaster Blasters properly she's dead.

That is a lot of ways to immediately die if Uzi isn't perfect in her starting move.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

It is predictable for someone who reverses time and resurrects and has several tries against him, Uzi does not have that, and therefore is going into this fight without that predictability sans would otherwise have against that very specific niche of a fighter

Okay but it's true.

You could have just said this.

Scaling doesn't matter, as both kill eachother immediately in this.

Sans has the superior reaction time why would that be in Uzi's favor of winning?

What passives, the profile does not make it clear which abilities are passive and which are not

I'm not dismissing your counterpoints im asking you to just provide a video and you refuse to. that isn't "reasonable references" when theres the lack thereof. Although this conversation has answered my question about whether or not they opened up with it.

First, let’s address the “predictability” claim.You're right Sans is predictable because the player gets multiple tries and learns his patterns. But that only applies within Undertale’s game mechanics and save/load structure. Outside that context like in a VsBattle setting Sans only fights once, and thus is not inherently more unpredictable than Uzi, especially considering that Absolute Solver grants her adaptive combat behavior and aggressive auto-targeting in real-time.Secondly, you’re misunderstanding the “scaling doesn’t matter” argument.If both characters “kill immediately,” then reaction speed, activation priority, and passives are the only relevant win conditions and in this regard, Uzi scales to characters with quantifiably FTL (Faster-Than-Light) reaction times. Sans has never shown anything beyond massively hypersonic at best without speculation.On your last point the Absolute Solver’s influence is confirmed in the show to act independently of Uzi’s intent at times (hence being called a “Solver Entity”). It reacts to danger and can manipulate matter, hack systems, or cause AoE disintegration passively. If you need visual proof, we can cite specific episodes where these effects trigger without deliberate activation.So, unless you can prove Sans resists a self-aware nanite entity that auto-defends and alters the battlefield while ignoring durability, it’s not as one-sided as you’re making it sound.

 

[FinePoint]

Idk, I still think Sans will yap for a while.
I don't really buy the argument that he only talked before because of his promise.
And tbh I don't know if I even buy his threats about how he would've killed us on sight- it seems more likely to me that he's trying to be intimidating so that it doesn't come to that in the first place.

His entire personality revolves around him yapping and loving doing it.
Plus actions speak louder than words. Even when pushed to the absolute brink he did talk a lot, regardless of who it was directed towards.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I asked for a simple thing, gave the reasoning that Sans can end the fight in less than a second, and that it is incredibly IC for him to start off that way due to having a single fight period, and even said I'd vote for Uzi if there was proof her first move was AoE. You haven't proven that, so I'm voting Sans. Simple as that.

Does Uzi talk at all, does she hesitate even for an instant? Does she try to use melee? Does she use stuff that can be dodged? If she does literally anything I just listed, Sans gibs her.

And of course, this is a thing.

Yeah, Sans has one fight. In this fight, if you look at literally any lets play of Undertale that does Genocide, he ******* murders 95% of gamers who have True Flight and can survive over 4x as long as Uzi in contact with Sans's attacks on their first time through with him.

Potato quality but to go through everything that can go wrong... If Uzi doesn't immediately jump she's dead, if she doesn't have true flight(She doesn't) she's dead on the second attack, and if she doesn't dodge the Gaster Blasters properly she's dead.

That is a lot of ways to immediately die if Uzi isn't perfect in her starting move.

You're demanding absolute perfection from Uzi while excusing Sans's entire performance as "one fight = always opens optimally." That’s not fair, nor accurate.Yes, Uzi talks. But that doesn’t prevent Absolute Solver from acting. We’ve seen multiple times that Solver overrides her will or reacts before she even finishes processing what’s going on (Episode 6 and Episode 10 are great examples). It's not just Uzi vs. Sans it's Uzi with a volatile, semi-sentient Solver AI that's aggressive and reactive.Melee hesitation? Uzi often rushes, but again, Solver doesn’t need melee. Solver has displayed AoE, hacking, nanite infection, and matter-disintegration and more importantly, has activated it without prompting. The assumption that Uzi “has to” go melee is flat-out wrong.Dodging? Reaction times? Uzi scales above characters who react to beams and attacks from robots far faster than anything Sans has canonically dealt with. If you want to talk "let’s plays" the average gamer ≠ a consistent speed feat. Uzi isn’t being piloted by a confused player. She has combat data, AI enhancements, and durability bypassing hax.No True Flight? She’s dodged energy storms and swarm ambushes mid-air with nanite propulsion and speed scaling that gives her 3D mobility. Claiming she has “no true flight” is arbitrary she literally hovers and fights aerially in multiple episodes.Finally, let’s be real if your entire argument hinges on her needing to be “perfect” to not die instantly, you’re ironically describing why passive/reactive abilities and higher-end hax scaling matter. You're expecting perfection from Uzi, but giving Sans leniency he doesn’t deserve in a vs matchup beyond Undertale’s game mechanics.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Idk, I still think Sans will yap for a while.
I don't really buy the argument that he only talked before because of his promise.
And tbh I don't know if I even buy his threats about how he would've killed us on sight- it seems more likely to me that he's trying to be intimidating so that it doesn't come to that in the first place.

His entire personality revolves around him yapping and loving doing it.
Plus actions speak louder than words. Even when pushed to the absolute brink he did talk a lot, regardless of who it was directed towards.

And that's fair, there's not a right way to interpret Sans' IC whether he just attacks or talks, because we know that little of it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You're demanding absolute perfection from Uzi while excusing Sans's entire performance as "one fight = always opens optimally." That’s not fair, nor accurate.Yes, Uzi talks. But that doesn’t prevent Absolute Solver from acting. We’ve seen multiple times that Solver overrides her will or reacts before she even finishes processing what’s going on (Episode 6 and Episode 10 are great examples). It's not just Uzi vs. Sans it's Uzi with a volatile, semi-sentient Solver AI that's aggressive and reactive.Melee hesitation? Uzi often rushes, but again, Solver doesn’t need melee. Solver has displayed AoE, hacking, nanite infection, and matter-disintegration and more importantly, has activated it without prompting. The assumption that Uzi “has to” go melee is flat-out wrong.Dodging? Reaction times? Uzi scales above characters who react to beams and attacks from robots far faster than anything Sans has canonically dealt with. If you want to talk "let’s plays" the average gamer ≠ a consistent speed feat. Uzi isn’t being piloted by a confused player. She has combat data, AI enhancements, and durability bypassing hax.No True Flight? She’s dodged energy storms and swarm ambushes mid-air with nanite propulsion and speed scaling that gives her 3D mobility. Claiming she has “no true flight” is arbitrary she literally hovers and fights aerially in multiple episodes.Finally, let’s be real if your entire argument hinges on her needing to be “perfect” to not die instantly, you’re ironically describing why passive/reactive abilities and higher-end hax scaling matter. You're expecting perfection from Uzi, but giving Sans leniency he doesn’t deserve in a vs matchup beyond Undertale’s game mechanics.

hit the enter key once in awhile, and I'll answer this. I'm not reading a book, I do enough of that.

 

[Comiphorous]

First, let’s address the “predictability” claim.You're right Sans is predictable because the player gets multiple tries and learns his patterns. But that only applies within Undertale’s game mechanics and save/load structure. Outside that context like in a VsBattle setting Sans only fights once, and thus is not inherently more unpredictable than Uzi, especially considering that Absolute Solver grants her adaptive combat behavior and aggressive auto-targeting in real-time.Secondly, you’re misunderstanding the “scaling doesn’t matter” argument.If both characters “kill immediately,” then reaction speed, activation priority, and passives are the only relevant win conditions and in this regard, Uzi scales to characters with quantifiably FTL (Faster-Than-Light) reaction times. Sans has never shown anything beyond massively hypersonic at best without speculation.On your last point the Absolute Solver’s influence is confirmed in the show to act independently of Uzi’s intent at times (hence being called a “Solver Entity”). It reacts to danger and can manipulate matter, hack systems, or cause AoE disintegration passively. If you need visual proof, we can cite specific episodes where these effects trigger without deliberate activation.So, unless you can prove Sans resists a self-aware nanite entity that auto-defends and alters the battlefield while ignoring durability, it’s not as one-sided as you’re making it sound.

I feel like im talking to an AI.

You made the predictability claim, not me. This entire paragraph feels like it's both against and supporting sans and it's very confusing.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

hit the enter key once in awhile, and I'll answer this. I'm not reading a book, I do enough of that.

I get that you want things to be concise, but there's a more respectful way to say that. Telling someone their post looks like a book and refusing to read it isn’t constructive especially in a debate setting where detailed points matter. Let's try to keep things civil while disagreeing, yeah?

 

[Comiphorous]

Idk, I still think Sans will yap for a while.
I don't really buy the argument that he only talked before because of his promise.
And tbh I don't know if I even buy his threats about how he would've killed us on sight- it seems more likely to me that he's trying to be intimidating so that it doesn't come to that in the first place.

His entire personality revolves around him yapping and loving doing it.
Plus actions speak louder than words. Even when pushed to the absolute brink he did talk a lot, regardless of who it was directed towards.

He only really talked a lot because he knew the human, and the human had known his friends. without any prior relationship there's nothing sans could really talk about to Uzi that wouldn't make sense.

chances are, he might want to talk but he really doesn't have anything he could say and would just attack Uzi.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I feel like im talking to an AI.

You made the predictability claim, not me. This entire paragraph feels like it's both against and supporting sans and it's very confusing.

This is a hurtful criticism, bro please be respectful

 

[ArthurBeyy]

He only really talked a lot because he knew the human, and the human had known his friends. without any prior relationship there's nothing sans could really talk about to Uzi that wouldn't make sense.

chances are, he might want to talk but he really doesn't have anything he could say and would just attack Uzi.

You are making irrelevant comments.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I get that you want things to be concise, but there's a more respectful way to say that. Telling someone their post looks like a book and refusing to read it isn’t constructive especially in a debate setting where detailed points matter. Let's try to keep things civil while disagreeing, yeah?

I'm a very blunt person, If you want anything but the blunt honest answer I'm not your guy unless there is serious stuff going on.

and I don't consider a debate about whether Sans the Skeleton would beat a wisecracking robot with a ******* railgun serious

 

[ArthurBeyy]

This is a hurtful criticism, bro please be respectful

I try to be respectful enough to you, I don't belittle you when I comment, you should do the same, we may have different opinions, but we are all human.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I'm a very blunt person, If you want anything but the blunt honest answer I'm not your guy unless there is serious stuff going on.

and I don't consider a debate about whether Sans the Skeleton would beat a wisecracking robot with a ******* railgun serious

I know you sir, we are in opposite situations here, I am trying to express myself sufficiently.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You are making irrelevant comments.

it's pretty relevant when discussing what Sans would immediately do at the start of a match lmfao

Sans potentially yapping is why Finepoint voted for Uzi in the first place

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I don't know, I'm trying to be objective, I think you're right.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Idk, I still think Sans will yap for a while.
I don't really buy the argument that he only talked before because of his promise.
And tbh I don't know if I even buy his threats about how he would've killed us on sight- it seems more likely to me that he's trying to be intimidating so that it doesn't come to that in the first place.

His entire personality revolves around him yapping and loving doing it.
Plus actions speak louder than words. Even when pushed to the absolute brink he did talk a lot, regardless of who it was directed towards.

Pretty much every character talks before starting a fight, keyword being before.
Think we base starting moves on when the fight actually starts. Like if pre-fight banter counted, sans wouldn’t have 90% of his wins.

Is Uzi even the insta-kill silent type?

 

[Comiphorous]

sans wouldn’t have 90% of his wins.

Maybe it should be that way, Eden.

 

[Ebihara]

Average sans matchup discourse.

 

[Comiphorous]

Average sans matchup discourse.

We haven't hit page 8 yet let's hold our horses here this is probably the shortest one in a while.

 

[FinePoint]

Pretty much every character talks before starting a fight, keyword being before.
Think we base starting moves on when the fight actually starts. Like if pre-fight banter counted, sans wouldn’t have 90% of his wins.

Is Uzi even the insta-kill silent type?

I picture it more as they get dropped in front of each other knowing they're going to fight.

In that context, who talks more likely dictates who acts first, and I think is still relevant.

That said, I have no idea if Uzi would talk too- I just don't like the notion that Sans will instantly kill someone on sight in less than two seconds.

He's definitely the type of guy to want to at least ask some questions first.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I picture it more as they get dropped in front of each other knowing they're going to fight.

In that context, who talks more likely dictates who acts first, and I think is still relevant.

That said, I have no idea if Uzi would talk too- I just don't like the notion that Sans will instantly kill someone on sight in less than two seconds.

He's definitely the type of guy to want to at least ask some questions first.

I agree with you bro

 

[Comiphorous]

I picture it more as they get dropped in front of each other knowing they're going to fight.

In that context, who talks more likely dictates who acts first, and I think is still relevant.

That said, I have no idea if Uzi would talk too- I just don't like the notion that Sans will instantly kill someone on sight in less than two seconds.

He's definitely the type of guy to want to at least ask some questions first.

What does sans even have to talk about? the only fight he's ever in he talks about things that only make sense for someone who knew his friends and family. he literally has nothing to go off here.

and even then, without toriel, he already admits he'd have killed you without question. whether that's him trying to be intimidating or not is up in the air, but considering the fact in his fight he does, in fact, easily murder you he has some merit to his claim.

 

[FinePoint]

He only really talked a lot because he knew the human, and the human had known his friends. without any prior relationship there's nothing sans could really talk about to Uzi that wouldn't make sense.

chances are, he might want to talk but he really doesn't have anything he could say and would just attack Uzi.

He'd probably start by making fun of them or asking some questions.

easily murder you he has some merit to his claim.

I'd say he doesn't do it easily. In fact he seems pretty sad over the course of the whole battle, and is masking it with humor.
He makes constant references to how he thought they could be friends throughout. In addition he's seemingly only willing to do it because you turned down his final chance and already murdered all of his friends, AND he knows you're going to delete the whole timeline.

If anything, I'd say he shows surprising restraint for someone in that situation.

In fact, personally, I question if Sans would even go for the kill if he can help it. He wanted to kill Frisk because their soul was going to save all of Monsterkind or whatever, and then after that because the alternative was the destruction of the universe. He strikes me as extremely motivated by protecting other people, not himself, not the kind of person to callously commit murder on any random person who attacks him.

Then again, I know the Undertale community at large wants to view Sans as an edgy death machine rather than the nuanced person he is, so I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears.

 

[Comiphorous]

I'd say he doesn't do it easily. In fact he seems pretty sad over the course of the whole battle, and is masking it with humor.
He makes constant references to how he thought they could be friends throughout. In addition he's seemingly only willing to do it because you turned down his final chance and already murdered all of his friends, AND he knows you're going to delete the whole timeline.

Uzi didn't do any of this so not really something he'd do in this case.

In fact, personally, I question if Sans would even go for the kill if he can help it.

The nefarious SBA which puts him in the mindset of killing Uzi so something terrible doesn't happen:

 

[FinePoint]

The nefarious SBA which puts him in the mindset of killing Uzi so something terrible doesn't happen:

SBA doesn't assume they intend to kill any more- just that they're willing to 'win the fight' which can happen a lot of ways.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Think SBA covers most of that, since if either of the two, or really any character, really took the time to seriously question why they're fighting, they'd quickly realize it's over nothing and clear up the misunderstanding.

Like by the end of the day, SBA only exists so people don't have to go through the effort to always write out a scenario why sans needs to kill whoever he's fighting and the like.

 

[Comiphorous]

SBA doesn't assume they intend to kill any more- just that they're willing to 'win the fight' which can happen a lot of ways.

Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences.

Willing to win the fight because losing could have dire consequences. Canonically speaking that means he's gonna murk this robot since thats what he did last time there were dire consequences.

 

[FinePoint]

Willing to win the fight because losing could have dire consequences. Canonically speaking that means he's gonna murk this robot since thats what he did last time there were dire consequences.

And for all the reasons I just discussed, he was hesitant to do that even in far MORE dire consequences.
He's ultimately a really friendly guy.

So I honestly don't think he'd go for the kill here.
Especially since he comes from a universe where a common way to win a fight is by making the opponent like you so much they give up.

I think people are really unfairly extrapolating a single instance where Sans was pushed to unfathomable extremes and forced to act, and assuming it represents his entire character- it does not.

I see no reason he wouldn't at least try to resolve the situation without killing first (convincing/forcing them to surrender), especially given he's pretty confident in his ability to dodge, and canonically is a fan of intimidation too.

 

[Catbowtie]

This could've all been solved if UltraStrym didn't downgrade Sans' Social Influencing. I could've said "Sans SI Ggs" but noooo.

 

[FinePoint]

Actually, furthermore: Sans KNEW you could rewind time, and that it would happen if you died.

So he didn't even think he was really "killing" you- which might explain why he was willing to do it in the first place.

And the reason he doesn't spare you is because he also knows you rewinding time is the only way he gets his friends back.

He has SO much less reason to kill Uzi here.

 

[Comiphorous]

And for all the reasons I just discussed, he was hesitant to do that even in far MORE dire consequences.
He's ultimately a really friendly guy.

So I honestly don't think he'd go for the kill here.
Especially since he comes from a universe where a common way to win a fight is by making the opponent like you so much they give up.

I think people are really unfairly extrapolating a single instance where Sans was pushed to unfathomable extremes and forced to act, and assuming it represents his entire character- it does not.

I see no reason he wouldn't at least try to resolve the situation without killing first, especially given he's pretty confident in his ability to dodge.

I see what you mean, and i realize sans' character is kinda a dumpster fire in the fandom, but SBA still makes both of these two see eachother as enemies and should fight.

SBA was made for characters like sans for this very reason. so people don't argue he wouldn't fight in the first place.

They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances

 

[FinePoint]

I see what you mean, and i realize sans' character is kinda a dumpster fire in the fandom, but SBA still makes both of these two see eachother as enemies and should fight.

SBA was made for characters like sans for this very reason. so people don't argue he wouldn't fight in the first place.

And I'm not arguing he wouldn't fight, but I am arguing he'd probably avoid killing them- and given how lethal he is (and knows he is given his confidence) I think it's highly likely he will HOLD BACK, and stall out the battle as long as he can until they either surrender or he can knock them out non-lethally.

In which case, it becomes inevitable that Uzi will eventually use their AOE which he has no knowledge of, and catch him off-guard.

 

[Comiphorous]

And I'm not arguing he wouldn't fight, but I am arguing he'd probably avoid killing them- and given how lethal he is (and knows he is given his confidence) I think it's highly likely he will HOLD BACK, and stall out the battle as long as he can until they either surrender or he can knock them out non-lethally.

In which case, it becomes inevitable that Uzi will eventually use their AOE which he has no knowledge of, and catch him off-guard.

I feel like if it were a sentient person he'd have a bit more issue with just murking them but this is a non-sentient, non-organic being that wants to kill him. honestly i feel like the moral conundrums of sans' aren't really there in this case.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Is this the prophesied return of sans' all-mighty SI?

If sans genuinely tries to resolve things peacefully, it probably wouldn’t be that hard. Uzi’s only fighting him based on false pretenses, and clearing those up would basically shut the whole thing down. That said, this runs into the issue where non-hotheaded characters would almost never end up fighting someone who's not overtly villainous if so.

Also, SBA does specify that "Characters will not give up of their own accord." sans does have SI, which can bypass that clause. But, uhh, it's more about him being likable guy than actually talking people down from a fight so… not sure it really applies here.

 

[Comiphorous]

Also, SBA does specify that "Characters will not give up of their own accord." sans does have SI, which can bypass that clause. But, uhh, it's more about him being likable guy than actually talking people down from a fight so… not sure it really applies here.

Technically he did offer Frisk to not fight him right before they fought so he could technically do the same offer here and immediately win if Uzi agreed LMAO

 

[FinePoint]

I feel like if it were a sentient person he'd have a bit more issue with just murking them but this is a non-sentient, non-organic being that wants to kill him. honestly i feel like the moral conundrums of sans' aren't really there in this case.

Well there's robots with souls in his universe, so he might just assume it's a situation like that.

Also, SBA does specify that "Characters will not give up of their own accord." sans does have SI, which can bypass that clause. But, uhh, it's more about him being likable guy than actually talking people down from a fight so… not sure it really applies here.

Yeah, I don't think his SI is very potent/I'm not very hopeful it'd help, but I think he would definitely try it before callous murder. If not that then intimidation, which is clearly in character for people he thinks are threats.

 

[FinePoint]

Technically he did offer Frisk to not fight him right before they fought so he could technically do the same offer here and immediately win if Uzi agreed LMAO

Well I highly doubt Uzi would agree, since they're assuming he intends on doing them real harm- so surrendering would presumably be really bad without a really good reason.