Sans vs The Anguished One [tier 1](speed equalized)

[Aurasuke]

So I saw a few threads with Sans being inconclusive with people of tier High 2-A with speed equalized. Apparently it was inconclusive with Homura with speed equalized. The main arguments were that his hax would bypass durability allowing him to strike first and take the victory. That's when I wondered just how haxed is Sans? So I came up with this.

Can sans be inconclusive with a tier 1? Can sans beat a tier 1?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Anguished_One

vs

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sans

Round 1

Speed equalized, assume angiushed one is Multiverse level+

Durability: Multiverse level+ or Low Complex Multiverse level (Tanked a hit from Canopus)

Round 2

Speed equalized assume anguished one is Low Complex Multiverse level

Round 3

Speed equalized sans gets first hit anguished one is Low Complex Multiverse level then Multiverse level+ for round 3.5

Round 4

Speed equalized, Sans gets 100 free hits assume anguished one is Low Complex Multiverse level then Multiverse level+ for round 4.5

Bonus Round

Assume the Anguished one has killed the following number of people. Appply to previous situations 4.5 rounds

100 people

10 000 people

infinite people



Sans the Ma


vs

 

[Tzula]

....

Anguished..

Wait How many people have Anguished ones killed?

 

[Aurasuke]

He's more known for killing bosses mostly. I guess it depends on how you play the game

 

[Tzula]

Then that would be inconclusive then..?

 

[CuriousWatcher]

None directly whatever the route, at least in regular DeSu 2. IIRC, Anguished One only tries to kill the player's party because it is his mission as a Septentrione and in fact, he really likes humanity.

 

[Aurasuke]

BTW, I kind of made 4 rounds. I'd like to know what you guys think for each of them.

 

[Tzula]

This just seems to.. To much Guess work..

 

[Aurasuke]

I've linked the profiles.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Now it's been a while for me, but...isn't Anguished One kinda like...a pretty good guy?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

He's catagorized as a good guy, yeah. @Azzy

 

[Aurasuke]

Well protagonist yes, not sure if he's a saint though lol.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Cross

Then doesn't that kinda take away the point of the fight? Because AO doesn't just go around murdering people (I remember him being pretty chill, actually) and that makes Sans hax which let him harm much stronger beings moot.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Cross
Then doesn't that kinda take away the point of the fight? Because AO doesn't just go around murdering people (I remember him being pretty chill, actually) and that makes Sans hax which let him harm much stronger beings moot.

I think so. The fact Curiouswatcher pointed out that AO like humanity and you saying that he's pretty laxed and chill actually does take away the hax power to moot...

 

[Aurasuke]

So he can't use hax on those that haven't killed many people then?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

So he can't use hax on those that haven't killed many people then?

He can, it would just suck. KR runs on karma, meaning the more suffering you've caused, the more suffering comes back to you.

 

[Aurasuke]

^Okay then, well I've added in some bonus rounds if it's that important to for his ability.

You can also feel free to give your answer to normal rounds as well.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

R1-4: Anguished One curbs.

Bonus Round:

100 people - Probably not enough

10,000 people - Possibly enough. Not enough info to say for sure

Infinite People - Likely Sans assuming he lands a hit.

 

[Aurasuke]

Interesting argument^

It's not unlikely that one destroys infinite people if they destroyed many space time continuums that ranged up to infinite.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yes, though AO doesn't go around doing that.

 

[Aurasuke]

lol did you finally switch your avatar?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Nooooooo...

 

[Aurasuke]

lol well I can't possibly see a reason to not believe you.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I am obviously very trustworthy.

 

[Aurasuke]

Yes, my eyes must decieve me. You word is more trustworthy than the picture of Cthulhu I am seeing. Clearly it's still Azathoth.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yes, my eyes must decieve me. You word is more trustworthy than the picture of Nyarlathotep I am seeing. Clearly it's still Azathoth.

FTFY.

Uhhh I mean, of course.

 

[Aurasuke]

Thanks, lol, didn't recgonize Nya in that form, usual see her like this:

 

[Aurasuke]

btw anyone seen Devil Survivor 2? it's not that bad lol

 

[CuriousWatcher]

It wan't bad but it left out some of the philosophical points of the story as well as some iteresting points about the characters and the end of the show was too cliche for me.

 

[MagiSinbad]

i'm gonna start with the Bonus round since that's where everyone interested

The victor would be Sans.

Why ? well, like everyone said, AO is a PURE good guy

He's love the humanity with all of his heart

in fact, he was the one who give them knowledge, fire and languages because he saw beautiful thing in their potential, and he would do anything for their sake, even if it cost his own life, he would even goes again his own master just like he did in the AO ending . In the others ending, he only fight Hibiki's crew because if they dont, then the path lead to Akasha Stratum would never be open. If AO killed entire humanity, i assume he would sit in some corner and cries for the sins he has comitted and that would give Sans an open chance, which would lead to his victory

Wouldnt you argree ? Curious ? :3

 

[MagiSinbad]

Round 1 : Sans

Because the power of Akashic Record can only affect the people inside the the Akashic Record multiverse. Sans is not from Akashic Record Multiverse so he's safe. And Akashic Record doesnt give AO any higher durabilty either.

Round 2 ,3 ,4 : it's a stomp in AO's favor

His Low-complex Multiverse level+ stat is not something that you can kidding around. It's the power of thePrime Factors (Heat, Gravity, Space and Time) , which constructed everything in the existence . The Prime Factors reside in the 6th-imension (Providence) along with Canopus, making it a 6th-dimensional power. Which mean the Anguished One has the protection of entire 6th-Dimension. No matter how many attack Sans made, it would be negated because the attacks themself are apart of the Prime Factors, at the same time he could uses the power of the Prime Factor to manipulates the fundamental concept to one shot Sans. In-game ability, the Factor of Space can make the user's range attack become infinte, the Time Factor can repeat the time so that the user can attack twice at a same time, cant remember what can Gravity and Heat do

Sans can only win again the Prime Factors if he fight them seperately, the Prime Factors seperately having their own weakness. But AO's Prime Factors is difference, they became one with him and grand him the near-perfect invulnerablity. Fighting again Prime Factor? well, you must possessing an equal time-space-gravity-heat power to fighting again them, that's how Hibiki and his crew was able to fight back Canopus :3

round 3,5 ; 4;5 ? well. my vote is for Sans o3o

 

[MagiSinbad]

Thanks, lol, didn't recgonize Nya in that form, usual see her like this:

Mai Waifu = the best Nyarlathotep =3=

Nyaruko-chan !