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Sans VS Rick Sanchez
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Why wouldn't you build gadgets? Better safe than sorry. If Rick knows he's getting ready for a really tough fight in a year's time, I don't see why he wouldn't cobble some stuff together.
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Prep wouldn't automatically allow that, and actually giving that to him would make him stomp.Buttersamuri said:
As is it's just him not doing stuff he could to win due to in-character stuff.
Sans fra.
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And I'm saying he probably should get it else prep time it literally pointless.
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a year is definitely more than enough time
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A year does basically nothing. He could have 1 year, 10 years, or more. It doesn't really have effect. What else can he do but bring the weapons which he could have ready in under a year?
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And I said giving prep with knowledge would make this a stomp.
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And not giving previous knowledge also makes it a stomp. Rick literally can't win. He doesn't have a way to possible win if Sans would end the fight right off the bat with his hacks. Which is what he always will open with.
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What? Dude, it's a quickdraw. Both characters can win, Sans just does it faster. One second to slow and Sans loses. That's not a stomp.
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Half previous Knowledge? How would that work?
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Dude he killed the most dangerous alien in the solar system or galaxy while drunk. I forget which is it.Buttersamuri said:
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Dude he killed the most dangerous alien in the solar system or galaxy while drunk. I forget which is it.
And? Offscreen feats like tgat mean zilch when Sans is completely different than anything he's fought before.
And? Offscreen feats like tgat mean zilch when Sans is completely different than anything he's fought before.
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Where the hell do people keep getting Time Manipulation for Sans?
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
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Anyways, not a stomp. Just a quickdraw that Rick loses.
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Where the hell do people keep getting Time Manipulation for Sans?
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
No. That's not a time stop, there's nothing to indicate that everything literally froze in place. It's just the place getting darker for dramatic effect. If he had that power, he'd have used it in his boss fight.
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
No. That's not a time stop, there's nothing to indicate that everything literally froze in place. It's just the place getting darker for dramatic effect. If he had that power, he'd have used it in his boss fight.
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do i need to change something or is it fine??
It's fine. Rick can win, he just doesn't because Sans starting move hits first.
It's fine. Rick can win, he just doesn't because Sans starting move hits first.
ShockingPsychic
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Where the hell do people keep getting Time Manipulation for Sans?
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
No. That's not a time stop, there's nothing to indicate that everything literally froze in place. It's just the place getting darker for dramatic effect. If he had that power, he'd have used it in his boss fight.
Grillby's flame stops moving. As soon as the lights dim, everything outside of the light stops moving.
Doesn't he stop time in Grillby's? To ask Frisk about Flowey?
No. That's not a time stop, there's nothing to indicate that everything literally froze in place. It's just the place getting darker for dramatic effect. If he had that power, he'd have used it in his boss fight.
Grillby's flame stops moving. As soon as the lights dim, everything outside of the light stops moving.
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Probably worth a CRT then. He's still never used it a fight though, so it's irrelevant here.
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If Sans was in character sure it could be argued more fair. But with a bloodlust. Nothing even stops sans from teleporting Rick into instant death and teleport dodging. Since it's bloodlust
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I made a CRT about Sans' potential timestop feat.
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At least remove the bloodlust for Sans. That way Sans would always immediately open with an undodgable attack that Rick has no way to stop or counter. Without bloodlust. Sans still can attack faster, but at least then he doesn't immediately teleports him into death and can teleport dodge even if Rick fires first
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Sans still opens with a nearly undodgeable first attack tho
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Sure, but at least Rick has a chance to dodge there. When Sans is bloodlusted. Rick has 0 way to dodge it. Sans instant teleports him into death. Without it, he opens with a hard to dodge attack. But at least Rick has a chance to actually dodge and attack. That's why I say remove the bloodlust. Wether Rick wins or not without it. It just makes it far more possible for him to win
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Yeah, I agree, but it won't change the outcome
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Which is fine. I'm just saying remove Sans Bloodlust so it's actually fair/possible.
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This battle seriously relies on Rick absolutely wasting prep time to an absurd degree.
Doing no research, creating no devices to go off automatically, creating no manner of countermeasures such as clones, not using any equipment that let him win instantly-
This is a poor match.
Doing no research, creating no devices to go off automatically, creating no manner of countermeasures such as clones, not using any equipment that let him win instantly-
This is a poor match.
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Yea, the more I think about it, the more likely he is to rig up some explosives, stop time, do research-
Fundamentally, Sans can't do anything if Rick blows up the entire arena or something absurd. The absolute best this can be is inconclusive.
Fundamentally, Sans can't do anything if Rick blows up the entire arena or something absurd. The absolute best this can be is inconclusive.
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1. He can't do research. Sans isn't from his verse. And even if he was he'd have no way of knowing thst is who he is fighting.
2. In order to rig up traps, he'd have to do do in the Judgement Hall, a place he has never been too and doesn't know exists.
3. He can use that equipment, it's just that Sans attacks are faster.
2. In order to rig up traps, he'd have to do do in the Judgement Hall, a place he has never been too and doesn't know exists.
3. He can use that equipment, it's just that Sans attacks are faster.
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1. When can we make a CRT to clarify prep time? Since every single prep time debate ends up being more about meta rules than the actual characters.The Wright Way said:
2. How the hell does he get there to fight, then?
3. Speed Equal. Also, Sans' attacks don't kill instantly, just really really really fast.
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1. Probably a good idea.
3. Same way characters randomly appear in New York in SBA matches. They're just suddenly there.
3. Rick raises his arm to push a button. That's slower than Sans raising an arm and having bones pop out of the ground. Also, he's a 9-A against a 9-B. He's gonna one-shot.
3. Same way characters randomly appear in New York in SBA matches. They're just suddenly there.
3. Rick raises his arm to push a button. That's slower than Sans raising an arm and having bones pop out of the ground. Also, he's a 9-A against a 9-B. He's gonna one-shot.
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...Oh shit, I forgot AP. It's been so long since Sans actually won something via one-shotting them with an AP advantage, and wasn't being fodderized by every attack.The Wright Way said:
But yea, Prep Time is quite badly explained at the moment. Most assumptions of it are just that; assumptions. Can you do research on your opponent? Probably not. Can you prepare the battlefield or know where you'll be fighting? Maybe.
I'll consider trying to make a revision for it later.
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I do agree. It's a poor in the sense cause giving so much prep is pointless without knowing what he is fighting. Giving him a day or giving him 1 year makes no difference. He could get his equipment in a day as most is already built and he builds his equipment fast anyway. It basically just is a full arsenal battle since he can't really prepare for what he doesn't even know he is fighting. Most he can do is get his arsenal ready
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