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not really when he is already fast enough to dodge it no problem, he had no reason to do it since he already blitz in reactions
so?
no he doesn't?
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Sans vs Queen
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I mean it spawns near him
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see the asgore example, it was fast enough to blitz him
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hand movement vs thought based, thought based is faster.
then what the hell is this? his hand clearly moves back up to bring the bones up.
ShockingPsychic
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Doesn't the attack go a lot quicker when he uses it against Asgore and in the pacifist ending? I think he was just playing with his food, so to speak. Not really relevant to the convo tho
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Flowey has always went for insta-kills against opponents that he believes he can defeat easily/are already defeated, and shouldn't be assumed he'd use the same patterns in an actual fight.
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Like I said he can make it descend faster as seen with Asgore he just made it slower to prolong our suffering
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it does
Da3ggman
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Not fast enough for sans not to be able to interrupt it.
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We have literally zero idea how flowey fights in a real battle. stop using cases where he isn't actually fighting as an example of what he'd do in a real fight.
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But we atleast have an idea, considering he has done a genocide route and killed everyone before so that would at least say something
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But sans still caused him a lot of resets, that at least says that he can dodge his danmaku all those times
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That isn't an 'idea' on how he fights. using cases where he's already ending a fight isn't showing what he does DURING a fight. a real good example would be his petal patterns as omega flowey, as they seem more realistic of what he'd do, and he's actively using them during a fight.
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"which sans can dodge with his superior reactions and then use his own thought based magic on her"
he moving his arms to sinalize his attack matter because? also since sans reactions are faster, his will likely be faster to trow
flowey died a lot of times against sans, to assume that he would use slow projectiles rather then the faster ones he used against asgore is insane
it blitzed asgore, the second high tier in speed, flowey did that fight numerous times, to assume that sans interupted them all is an assumption that needs evidence
he can do them faster? yes, is there any reason to assume that he wouldn't use the fast ones instead of the slow one? no
show any evidence that he wouldn't use the fast ones in a fight when that is completely illogical
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again, sans doesn't start with thought based magic. stop mentioning that. if Queen attacks sans, he will still lead with his usual attack, which required a hand movement.
because that means he doesn't start with thought based magic, he starts with hand signal'd magic which is slower than thought based magic. his reaction speed has nothing to do with his actual physical speed, and will throw just as fast REGARDLESS of his reaction speed.
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Makes more sense but it's Danmaku, and where's he gonna teleport if it's covering everything around him?
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if he can't see, he has no idea where to teleport.
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if she trows an attack, he will dodge(like i have been saying for numerous times but you keep ignoring it even with me highlighting it) and then proceed to use his attack normally, the dodge part is the important one
which is irrelevant since he can react far faster then the queen
his reactions are faster, so he will trow it first, it is simple
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define "everywhere" from the visuals we have it is no more than a couple of feet around the target, sans can just teleport some meters away and avoid it
behind the queen?
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I keep ignoring it because you fail to realize it doesn't matter if he dodges, his starting move isn't thought based. it doesn't matter if he dodges. he won't break character because he has to move.
doesn't mean jack shit when it takes another extra second for anything lethal to actually appear before he's blinded, and attacked while he can't see.
they're 10 meters apart. what does Queen need to react about? they're both going to attack at the same time.
He can't see the queen in that scenario and won't know where she is, he can't do that.
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what even is your point?
he will not be blinded tho? queen does not come even close to start with the pop ups
sans reaction speed is faster, therefore he reacts/attacks first
why would he need to see? he saw where she was when she attacked, he knows where she is, or he can simply teleport anywhere else, having the vision obscured does nothing to his capability to teleport
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sans isn't going to break character and use thought based hax first. he's using hand movements first. which leaves him very open to attacks, especially when his opponent is going to use thought based danmaku.
What he reacts to doesn't mean jack tiddley fart when again, they see each other, and attack, at the same exact time.
he kinda needs to know where he's going for him to teleport accordingly.
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when have i ever said otherwise?
that he can easily dodge with his higher reactions + mobility options + time stop
sans attack faster since he reacts faster
not really, besides he does know here since it is in the Last Corridor
btw going to sleep now
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Still voting Sans.
Sans DPS melts Queen before she can do much.
Sans will know where to teleport when obscured as he knows the arena well and should visualize where Queen is. Sans just teleports behind her nothing personal kid style
Sans DPS melts Queen before she can do much.
Sans will know where to teleport when obscured as he knows the arena well and should visualize where Queen is. Sans just teleports behind her nothing personal kid style
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Ojou-Sama FRA.
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what
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round 2 with speed unequalized added
ShionAH
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Only 1 round. Thats against the rules
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guys did Jevil vs Sans fight ever happened?
ShionAH
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Yes
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Make Sans vs Royal Krown(Deltarune)
It will be very fun
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