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Sans vs Goku
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He could blast it with a ki blastAquaWaifu said:
Dodge it with Instant transmission since it takes a full second of charge time before it fires
or Possibly raise a Ki barrier to block it
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Why can't we assume the gaster blaster can be destroyed by a ki blastAquaWaifu said:
B. he used it when he was a child
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There is no evidince saying the gaster blasters can't be destroyedAquaWaifu said:
And your litterally saying gaster blasters can't be destroyed by planet level attacks right now
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No Dbfan would have to prove it because he brought it up.Huesito88 said:
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Also this is my last post Because otherwise i'm probably gonna break stuff Because i suck at controlling my anger when debatingDbfan and critic said:
BUT
Other attacks have been countered and destroyed by other attacks in undertale
See Flowey's attacks Getting countered and destroyed by Papyruses bones
Undyne's spears
and mettatons electricity
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How is it a fallacy to assume Sans attacks can be destroyedAquaWaifu said:
Because attacks from monsters far stronger than him have been destroyed
(note Sans is still physically the weakest monster No amount of hax can change that)
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Also you are using a fallacy your selfAquaWaifu said:
The no limites fallacy
Assuming sans attacks can't be destroyed because they never have been
Even though Attacks from magically stronger monsters have been destroyed by clashes with each other (Flowey and Papyrus Flowey and meatton Flowey and toriel)
so assuming they can't be destroyed is as i've stated a No limits fallacy
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So he'd be able to destory them before they fire in a fight where speed is equalized. Also the Instant Kamehameha requires CONSIDERABLE concentration to do as he would not doing the finger to forehead pose to do IT normally. I highly doubt having to dodge all those bones, GBs, while under spatial, gravity manipulation and being teleported himself into attacks would be able to concentrate on doing an IT Kamehameha.
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Also you are using a fallacy your self
The no limites fallacy
Assuming sans attacks can't be destroyed because they never have been
Even though Attacks from magically stronger monsters have been destroyed by clashes with each other (Flowey and Papyrus Flowey and meatton Flowey and toriel)
so assuming they can't be destroyed is as i've stated a No limits fallacy
But here's the thing. All of those attacks were magic. DB has made it pretty clear that there is a difference between ki and magic. Ki is dependent on the phisyicallity of the user while magic users like that wizard who brought buu to earth(I forgot his name.) Is clearly using something different.
The no limites fallacy
Assuming sans attacks can't be destroyed because they never have been
Even though Attacks from magically stronger monsters have been destroyed by clashes with each other (Flowey and Papyrus Flowey and meatton Flowey and toriel)
so assuming they can't be destroyed is as i've stated a No limits fallacy
But here's the thing. All of those attacks were magic. DB has made it pretty clear that there is a difference between ki and magic. Ki is dependent on the phisyicallity of the user while magic users like that wizard who brought buu to earth(I forgot his name.) Is clearly using something different.
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What a coincidence that moment I start up Cornered theme to go along with my debating in this thread the name Wright pops in the thread.
At least your listening to the wright music.
At least your listening to the wright music.
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And again no limites fallacy there's nothing really saying Magic can't be destroyed by physical objects/Ki And they've even interacted with physical objects before So logically they can be countered and destroyed by physical objects strong enough to overpower them
(the bridge during the undyne chase)
(the bridge during the undyne chase)
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That would require concentration. Which goku wouldn't have due to keepin up with all of sans's hax. (Spatial manipulation, gravity magic, soul manipulation, etc.)Huesito88 said:
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According to Azzy, Sans doesn't have gravity manipulation. His gravity is what happens to the souls Sans manipulates.
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And again no limites fallacy there's nothing really saying Magic can't be destroyed by physical objects/Ki And they've even interacted with physical objects before So logically they can be countered and destroyed by physical objects strong enough to overpower them
(the bridge during the undyne chase)
Fair enough. But with sans spamming all of his attacks goku destroying the blasters would just give sans the opportunity to attack from another angle. Such as throwing goku to the floor with gravity manipulation. Also I apologize for accidentally using NLF earlier.
(the bridge during the undyne chase)
Fair enough. But with sans spamming all of his attacks goku destroying the blasters would just give sans the opportunity to attack from another angle. Such as throwing goku to the floor with gravity manipulation. Also I apologize for accidentally using NLF earlier.
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speed is equalized here so Goku cant just be breaking the GBs and then have to switch to dealing with Sans throwing out bones EVERYWHERE. I imagine that crap would be...difficult to do under gravity and spatial manipulation. Also destroying those GBs is gonna probably make alot of smoke or something thus Goku isnt gonna notice Sans shooting bones at him from behind or even past the smoke.
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To be Fair
the Gaster blasters take literally around a second to charge
Yes i litterally watched the gaster blasters appere frame by frame in order to tell when they fired
the Gaster blasters take literally around a second to charge
Yes i litterally watched the gaster blasters appere frame by frame in order to tell when they fired
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NO they arn'tAquaWaifu said:
The beams will just be Massivly faster than Goku at this point
But not instantaneous
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The beams aren't faster then goku it's ftl or sub realisctic sorry forgot which one it was. The beams are instantaneous sans can only travel and SET the beams in a instant however the beam it's travels ftl or sub realistic to get to its's target. But this is speed equalized so why talk about the speed of the beams?
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Well, Goku could one-shot using actually any of his attacks, but I don't think it's in character for him to just blast the enemy in the first attack, and Sans can ignore durability, it's hard to tell with equalized speed. Whoever manages to attack first would probably win, just like most Sans fights.
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Huesito88 said:
the speed of Gaster blasters beams are completely unaffected as is say Goku's kamehameha, only combat, travel and reaction speed is equalized so like GOku cant punch Sans at his FTL+ combat speed.
I would say generally speed equalization, I guess its put to the lower speed of he two.
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It's sans's speed.Huesito88 said:
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So just to keep track. Who are you all voting for at this point?
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The Wright Way said:
Sans due to spatial and gravity manipulation, if people agree that Beerus would get affected by that then so would Goku, and his Gaster Blasters would be extremley fast to Goku due to speed equalizations, he' basically be firing off several Kamehamehas that ignore durability, and even if Goku has low KR, they would ATLEAST do something to him given he has killed before. and though they take a second to fire off, so does Goku's own Kamehameha
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