Sans vs Charizard

[The_Wright_Way]

No preperation.


Level 100 Charizard.


Charizard starts in base but has access to both his x and y forms.

To make things fair this Charizard has killed all the pokemon it has fought to get to level 100. (Is it legal for me to do that? If not then I'll close this.)


Speed equalized.


Takes place in Kalos victory road.



It's a beautiful day outside...

vs.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Sans is way too haxed for Chaizrd my friend.

 

[Cropfist]

Charizard via AoE fire attacks.

 

[BreloomFanboy]

What fire moves have large AoE? Also how does that affect an teleporter with spatial manipulation?

 

[Cropfist]

Most of them in general, and Sans can't dodge forever.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What fire moves have large AoE? Also how does that affect an teleporter with spatial manipulation?

Heat Wave, Flame Burst, Fire Spin...

 

[BreloomFanboy]

Heat Wave, Flame Burst, Fire Spin...

Heat wave doesn't have a large AoE.

Neither does Fire Spi or Flame burst

 

[Charizard6903]

Now, I actually discussed this with my friend on Instagram quite some time ago, and we came up with this conclusion:

Sans is known for being really evasive and cannot teleport, according to UT's creator, and he only has one health. So what does Charizard have to do? He has two options: Swift or Aerial Ace. Two attacks that Charizard can learn and never miss. Charizard's got an easy win here. Also, if not those, he can trap Sans with Fire Spin, and then use Seismic Toss.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Now, I actually discussed this with my friend on Instagram quite some time ago, and we came up with this conclusion:

Sans is known for being really evasive and cannot teleport, according to UT's creator, and he only has one health. So what does Charizard have to do? He has two options: Swift or Aerial Ace. Two attacks that Charizard can learn and never miss. Charizard's got an easy win here. Also, if not those, he can trap Sans with Fire Spin, and then use Seismic Toss.

Where has it ever been stated that sans can't teleport? Post a link or it didn't happen.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Heat Wave kinda screws Sans over. Just like how it saved me back in PMD.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Heat Wave kinda screws Sans over. Just like how it saved me back in PMD.

Um. Not really. This is what heat wave looks like in the anime. [[1]]

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

And this is how it looks like in the games. Even spin offs.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

And this is how it looks like in the games. Even spin offs.

Okay. So which one should we except as canon? Which one is the most accurate depiction of the attack?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The one from the primary canon.

 

[DerpCity]

Why can't it be assumed it can be used in multiple ways? Don't have an opinion on the fight, but I'm curious.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

The one from the primary canon.

So, the games then?

 

[Charizard6903]

Where has it ever been stated that sans can't teleport? Post a link or it didn't happen.


Well, as it turns out, my friend who told me such things had not been completely truthful. But, that doesn't stop Swift or Aerial Ace from hitting, as teleportation is evasion nonetheless.

 

[The_Ultimate_Dragon_Slayer]

One Swift/Aerial Ace, game over as it never misses and Sans only has 1 HP. Going with a reasonably easy win for Charizard here.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No-miss attacks are treated as game mechanics here

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Granted, swift is still a Homing Attack.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Do we know Frisk/Chara's power-level when Sans fought her?

I'm assuming he one-shots anyway. Speed equalized doesn't mean Charizard will hit Sans at all. He's probably one of the best dodgers I've ever seen. And his only "1 HP" more than confirms that.

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

Charizard with Aerial Ace is guaranteed to hit

Sans has yet to deal with flight

Swift allows him a guaranteed hit

Charizard has this

 

[Zerodestiny169]

Yeah. The 100% accuracy moves such as Aerial Ace can just one hit Sans. So I think the Charizard wins without going into their mega-evolved forms.

 

[NeoZex6399]

My vote goes for charizard through Heat Wave and Aerial Ace.

 

[GodTongue5280]

Sans can prevent Charizard from flying with blue magic. And since things like Clairvoyance can avoid any attack, could Sans realistically?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Sans can prevent Charizard from flying with blue magic. And since things like Clairvoyance can avoid any attack, could Sans realistically?

When did Clairvoyance become a part of this?

 

[GodTongue5280]

Since certain things in the pokemon universe let them avoid those attacks, how do you determine what out of universe things can?

 

[The_Ultimate_Dragon_Slayer]

Sans can prevent Charizard from flying with blue magic. And since things like Clairvoyance can avoid any attack, could Sans realistically?

Blue magic can't stop Swift from hitting. And Sans doesn't possess Clairvoyance so what does Clairvoyance have to do with this?

 

[Charizard6903]

Blue magic can't stop Swift from hitting. And Sans doesn't possess Clairvoyance so what does Clairvoyance have to do with this?

Now, I don't know what Clairvoyance is, but I do know that despite being a flying type, Charizard is still an amazing ground fighter. Also, even if attacks like Swift and Aerial Ace won't hit, he still gets Hone Claws, which boosts attack and accuracy at the same time. This would mean even Dynamic Punch, Dragon Rush, and Iron Tail would all hit. This would even just help moves like Flamethrower, which normally have 100 accuracy regardless.

 

[Laughing_Manson]

Going with Charizard. He's got enough options to deal with Sans' evassiveness to have an advantage.

 

[The_Ultimate_Dragon_Slayer]

Blue magic can't stop Swift from hitting. And Sans doesn't possess Clairvoyance so what does Clairvoyance have to do with this?

Now, I don't know what Clairvoyance is, but I do know that despite being a flying type, Charizard is still an amazing ground fighter. Also, even if attacks like Swift and Aerial Ace won't hit, he still gets Hone Claws, which boosts attack and accuracy at the same time. This would mean even Dynamic Punch, Dragon Rush, and Iron Tail would all hit. This would even just help moves like Flamethrower, which normally have 100 accuracy regardless.

I don't get why you responded to me because I'm on the Charizard side too lol, but okay.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

i mean, as most charizards well shown, it doesent think as it leaves that to the trainer. sans can kill extremly fastly, as even frisk died in 5 seconds and he may not even let it attack.