Samus Aran vs Kratos

[Kaltias]

Did Samus destroy a disembodied ghost or did she destroy someone's soul while it was inside their body?

The former isn't useful in this fight

The former is absolutely useful because it bypasses Low-Godly.

The difference is that only the latter is durability negation

 

[The_Everlasting]

"The former is absolutely useful because it bypasses Low-Godly."

He said useful in this fight.

 

[Kepekley23]

It isn't useful because if it's simply the former, she isn't one shotting Kratos's soul while it's inside his body. And if he dies, she won't be able to

 

[Kaltias]

If it's the former she one shots both, because she is strong enough to do so.

 

[Kepekley23]

Scans?

 

[Kaltias]

Of what?

A 5-B one shotting a High 6-A two times over?

 

[Kepekley23]

You said she'd be able to one shot his soul even while it's inside his body.

 

[Kaltias]

No, I said that she can destroy it alongside his body.

Ghost killing still makes you able to destroy someone's soul when you kill them, it simply means that you can't bypass durability with it.

 

[Kepekley23]

She can't do that, though. His soul passes on to the Underworld and returns to his body.

 

[Blueblur24]

Would she have to delete his soul inorder for her to get rid of him completely ?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I read DonTalk's revision about killing a ghost = Some form of Soul Manipulation. While it is agreed that killing a ghost =/= being able to negate durability via ripping the soul out of someone's body. However, under certain circumstances, it can still negate Low-Godly Regenerationn if said character is able to destroy the body and soul in one fell swoop.

It's very basic math, Matter Manipulation in a Atomic to Macro-Quantum scale + Soul Destruction = Low-Godly Regenerationn negation. Samus is able to kill Chozo Ghosts, Gorea, and Phantoo. The first are Phazon enhanced Spirits of Chozo, a Race of Godlike Alien birds, who have both Spatial and Immaterial Intangibility. Gorea is a Cosmic deity with both Immaterial Intangibility and At least High Regenerationn. Samus was able to completely destroy him thanks to the Omega Cannon. Phantoon is a Non-Corporal being with Spatial Intangibility; Samus was yet again able to kill him.

All examples of characters whose souls are far more durable than Kratos. Combine that with Samus completely destroying Kratos's body and/or Wave Beam + Plasma by phasing through and attacking all solid objects ignoring conventional durability by striking both their insides and their soul. Ice Beam also can freeze Souls; that's anothering stacked with Wave Beam and Plasma Beam.

 

[Kepekley23]

Are there scans of she destroying both the body and the soul at the same time? Killing Kratos with Atomic Hax won't do anything to his soul unless she literally destroys it '''first.'''

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This Wiki seems to describe the Omega Cannon as a composite of the other Prime Hunters Weapons, and possible existence erasure. Also, reread the context I spoke, all Samus's weapons are literally capable of at least two things. Matter Destruction, and Soul Destruction with the same attacks. Put those together, and it counts as being able to destroy body and soul at the same time.

 

[Kepekley23]

Unless she has done it on screen, we can't say she will do it in this battle.

Anyway, I'm neutral here until then.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Just gonna leave this video and this video out. That's also basically the only way for Samus to destroy Gorea in the first place. Dark Samus is also about to have Mid-Godly from what SD is mentioning due to the new revisions which would scale to Composite Samus.

Also, Samus freezing his Soul and Body at AZ still hasn't been debunked, to that's the other alternative. Still counts as victory via incapacitation.