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Salazzle vs Cobra
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When has Salazzle instantly killed things with her poison?
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Salazzle's also part of the Dragon Egg group so Dragon Slayer Magic will do tons of damage to her.
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Has the poison ever horribly disfigured someone?
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Okay. ƒæî
Sounds like it's normal poison then. Ingesting it would make him sick but that doesn't make it start having properties it has never shown before, like melting people.
Sounds like it's normal poison then. Ingesting it would make him sick but that doesn't make it start having properties it has never shown before, like melting people.
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Generic acid attacks used by random pokemon can reduce other pokemon to puddles in secondsDragonEmperor23 said:
Salazzle's corossives are fsr more potent
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What corrosives?
Making a robot sick is different from melting it.
Making a robot sick is different from melting it.
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Salazzle's passive ability is Corrosion
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"Corrosion: Allows Salazzle to bypass the opponent's resistance/immunity to be poisoned."
This is resistance negation for the most part. The part where it mentions being able to poison things that are immune to poison (and this is a Pokémon so that includes things like Ghosts and Robots) reminds me of the thread I made where I asked if the potency of something changed if it worked on something that was fundamentally immune to it based on its nature. The conclusion was that it's not any better and doesn't make any sense. (It was a thread about mind Hax working on things without minds and soul hax working on things without souls. The logic was that if you could manipulate something that doesn't exist in someone, then you're either manipulating something else and calling it the same thing or that person doesn't actually lack that thing.) it's similar becuase logically you can't poison a ghost or a robot because they have no organic functions yet Salazzle can.
This is resistance negation for the most part. The part where it mentions being able to poison things that are immune to poison (and this is a Pokémon so that includes things like Ghosts and Robots) reminds me of the thread I made where I asked if the potency of something changed if it worked on something that was fundamentally immune to it based on its nature. The conclusion was that it's not any better and doesn't make any sense. (It was a thread about mind Hax working on things without minds and soul hax working on things without souls. The logic was that if you could manipulate something that doesn't exist in someone, then you're either manipulating something else and calling it the same thing or that person doesn't actually lack that thing.) it's similar becuase logically you can't poison a ghost or a robot because they have no organic functions yet Salazzle can.
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Salazzle's poison is incredibly dangerous. Muk's poison is so bad that if it touches the ground, no wildlife will be able to grow there for up to three years. Some Pokemon can turn other Pokemon into puddles with their posion. Dragalge's poison can melt through steel. And Salazzle's poison is far more deadly than all of that. Cobra is dead if that poison enters his mouth.
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No, it's not. "Corrosion: Allows Salazzle to bypass the opponent's resistance/immunity to be poisoned."Sptflcrw said:
Salazzle's poison bypasses resistances. It is not stronger than the other poisons, they just don't ignore resistance like it does.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance_Negation
" An easy to understand ability, this ability is the ability to get rid of the opponent's crutch of being immune or nigh immune to certain attacks. For example, say the opponent is resistant to existence erasure. This ability would make said resistance naught, and allows the attacker to use another move to erase the opponent from existence "
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" OK, let's have it your way. "
Look, if you disagree and can explain why, I'm ready to listen. I'm just going off of how it's described.
" If the poison bypasses Cobra's resistance, then he'll die as soon as the poison enters his mouth. "
As said by Drite, Salazzle hasn't instantly killed anyone with her poison, so it's not death on touch.
Look, if you disagree and can explain why, I'm ready to listen. I'm just going off of how it's described.
" If the poison bypasses Cobra's resistance, then he'll die as soon as the poison enters his mouth. "
As said by Drite, Salazzle hasn't instantly killed anyone with her poison, so it's not death on touch.
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If Salazzle's poison is able to bypass the Resistance of Dragalge and/or Muk then yes, it's far more deadly.
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But the ability to negate resistances is not an indicator of how strong something is. Dragon Slaying magic bypasses magic resistance, does this mean that Dragon Slaying magic is stronger than every magic that doesn't bypass magic resistance? No.Calaca Vs said:
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I agree tbh if she can kill the opponents instantly with her poison then it should be OHKO which in truth is not.
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One word
Venoshock
Venoshock
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There's something else I want to address. There are two ways to get past resistance, having a stronger version of the attack that overpowers the resistance or having resistance negation. An example of the former would Base Natsu getting his flames ignored by Madmorl's heat resistance, but Madmorl getting burnt by Fire Dragon King's Natsu flames due to them being hotter than what Madmorl can resist. Resistance Negation means that your attack ignores the resistance of the person (obviously not counting higher dimensional stuff to avoid NLF). This means that it doesn't matter how strong your attack is because it will ignore the fact that the opponent would usually resist it. Character A using Resistance negating soul hax on Character B who has a resistance to soul hax worth 1000 souls does not make Character A's soul hax more potent, it just bypasses the resistance Character B has. Based off the description on the profile, Salazzle fits into the second category because it says that it bypasses resistance which is another word for ignore. Unless there's another wording of it that implies it overpowers the resistance with it's own potency, then it's just resistance negation.
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Where is this stated?GyroNutz said:
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But saying that the reason Salazzle's poison works on all pokemon specifically because it's poison is corrosive implies no other pokemon uses corrosive poison.
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Okay but that requires more assumptions. Saying that the name of the ability implies it being of one thing is disadvantaged by other pokemon having the same name for that ability when the actual description of the ability itself elaborates on what it does as bypassing. Besides, who uses bypassing with the intent of it meaning strength or potency? You don't say, for example, "My 4-A AP bypasses your 4-B durability.".
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It actually requires less assumptions. We know that some Pokemon have poison that is corrosive, yet cannot poison steel or poison types. We also know that Salazzle and Salandit have the corrosion ability and can poison steel or poison types. So either:
- Salazzle's poison isn't actually corrosive, it just magically bypasses in-verse immunities
- Salazzle's poison is corrosive, and must be more corrosive than other Pokemon's poison via feats.
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Yeah, it's really misleading. I take back what I said then.
Edit: About the resistance negation stuff. Not the instantly killing Cobra if he tries eating it stuff.
Edit: About the resistance negation stuff. Not the instantly killing Cobra if he tries eating it stuff.
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Cobra won't die instantly if he tries to eat it. He will, however, be beyond saving if the fight drags on. Which her superior defense (wow, it feels REALLY weird talking about Salazzle having better defenses than something) and Venom Drench will guarrantee, unless the lizard is merciful and just goes for a few Venoshocks.
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