Saitama vs Shadow Mewtwo

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Characters are in character... and i haven't seen Saitama dodge anything since *nothing* hurts him. Why would he suddenly start dodging now?
I mean, unless i'm mistaken.

Saitama dodged Beast King's attacks. He also dodged Garou's. He just doesn't always do so.

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

And Mewtwo doesn't mess with Humans anyway, so why are these two fighting? But even if they do fight, since Saitama doesn't dodge and Mewtwo actually has strategies other than, Attack Attack Attack, wouldn't that give Mewtwo a tactical advantage.

 

[MafiaFox]

And Mewtwo doesn't mess with Humans anyway, so why are these two fighting? But even if they do fight, since Saitama doesn't dodge and Mewtwo actually has strategies other than, Attack Attack Attack, wouldn't that give Mewtwo a tactical advantage.

Saitama fights are ******* ******** and should be banned anyways, he's never been hurt nor had to actually try or have any kind of strain ever, Saitama should be banned till EOS.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

Saitama should be banned till EOS.

I second this notion, or at least until we have word of god confirmation about his upper limit that CAN be sourced.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I personally think Saitama should be banned until either EoS or until there's an incident where he may get tired or starts to get serious.

 

[MafiaFox]

I personally think Saitama should be banned until either EoS or until there's an incident where he may get tired or starts to get serious.

^^^^ This

 

[Aparajita]

I personally think Saitama should be banned until either EoS or until there's an incident where he may get tired or starts to get serious.

^^^ this, but i agree that Mewtwo takes it with mild difficulty.

 

[Talonmask]

The problem is that he'd have an incredibly hard time getting power swap off when fighting someone who is three times his speed.

Trick Room.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

Trick Room.

...Is not naturally learned by Mewtwo. Even if it is, Saitama's speed advantage means he can get an attack off before Trick Room can be used, if we take speed to mean initiative.

 

[MafiaFox]

Trick Room.

...Is not naturally learned by Mewtwo. Even if it is, Saitama's speed advantage means he can get an attack off before Trick Room can be used, if we take speed to mean initiative.
He's still planet busting while since we're using FEATS only even if it's casual, he's multi-continental, so MewTwo takes it, sad to say.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Again Shadow Mewtwo is not planet level only moon level

 

[Talonmask]

Trick Room.

...Is not naturally learned by Mewtwo. Even if it is, Saitama's speed advantage means he can get an attack off before Trick Room can be used, if we take speed to mean initiative.
It doesn't matter if it's not naturally learned, don't put limitations on one if you're not going to do so for the other, if it's possible that he can learn it, it can be included. Boros withstood a punch from Saitama and he's High 6-A, so even if a punch did land the Trick Room would be up and he would be able to dodge and buff as he so pleases.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

He's still planet busting while since we're using FEATS only even if it's casual, he's multi-continental, so MewTwo takes it, sad to say.

We're using the 5-C variation of Mewtwo here, which is Shadow Mewtwo.

5-C: Moon level Characters who can destroy a moon, or an astrological object of similar proportion.

Saitama's feats place him technically above this level, I think. He punched through a beam that could scour the earth of all life (concievably planet busting) with ease. I'm not sure of the exact reference used on that one, but It's interesting to note.

Found a reference for him at least destroying an object that appears to be a moon. Could be bigger or smaller in context.

 

[Talonmask]

Shouldn't even normal Mewtwo be at Moon level now because of the vs. Deoxys feat in the manga?

 

[MafiaFox]

He's still planet busting while since we're using FEATS only even if it's casual, he's multi-continental, so MewTwo takes it, sad to say.

We're using the 5-C variation of Mewtwo here, which is Shadow Mewtwo.
5-C: Moon level Characters who can destroy a moon, or an astrological object of similar proportion.

Saitama's feats place him technically above this level, I think. He punched through a beam that could scour the earth of all life (concievably planet busting) with ease. I'm not sure of the exact reference used on that one, but It's interesting to note.

No, it places him below that since he's 6-A which it was ONLY a multi-continental feat.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

No, it places him below that since he's 6-A which it was ONLY a multi-continental feat.

His page is obviously wrong. I just found a reference of him punching a hole through what appears to be a large astral body.

 

[Talonmask]

No, it places him below that since he's 6-A which it was ONLY a multi-continental feat.

His page is obviously wrong. I just found a reference of him punching a hole through what appears to be a large astral body.

That meteor was only going to destroy a single city, if the moon actually collided with the earth there be more destruction than just that. That asteroid wasn't even worth 6-A

 

[Talonmask]

He's still planet busting while since we're using FEATS only even if it's casual, he's multi-continental, so MewTwo takes it, sad to say.

We're using the 5-C variation of Mewtwo here, which is Shadow Mewtwo.
5-C: Moon level Characters who can destroy a moon, or an astrological object of similar proportion.

Saitama's feats place him technically above this level, I think. He punched through a beam that could scour the earth of all life (concievably planet busting) with ease. I'm not sure of the exact reference used on that one, but It's interesting to note.

Found a reference for him at least destroying an object that appears to be a moon. Could be bigger or smaller in context.

That's just a cover meant to entice readers, he never displays that power in the actual story.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

That meteor was only going to destroy a single city, if the moon actually collided with the earth there be more destruction than just that. That asteroid wasn't even worth 6-A

Alright, fair enough, but how about this?

Which he promptly does

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This to.

This is a word of canon attack that is powerful enough to scour the surface of a planet, if not outright destroy it. It is stated that it can "Wipe out a planet's surface."

Is that a good enough feat for you? I feel that everyone tries to undervalue exactly how powerful Saitama appears to be, which is why I'm defending this. I've no strong love of OPM, I just don't want to see any stone unturned.

 

[MafiaFox]

That meteor was only going to destroy a single city, if the moon actually collided with the earth there be more destruction than just that. That asteroid wasn't even worth 6-A

Alright, fair enough, but how about this?

Which he promptly does

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This to.

This is a word of canon attack that is powerful enough to scour the surface of a planet, if not outright destroy it. It is stated that it can "Wipe out a planet's surface."

Is that a good enough feat for you? I feel that everyone tries to undervalue exactly how powerful Saitama appears to be, which is why I'm defending this. I've no strong love of OPM, I just don't want to see any stone unturned.

You missed the quote where he says: I'll wipe you along with this planets surface" which is multi-continental.

 

[Talonmask]

That meteor was only going to destroy a single city, if the moon actually collided with the earth there be more destruction than just that. That asteroid wasn't even worth 6-A

Alright, fair enough, but how about this?

Which he promptly does

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This to.

This is a word of canon attack that is powerful enough to scour the surface of a planet, if not outright destroy it. It is stated that it can "Wipe out a planet's surface."

Is that a good enough feat for you?

I'm pretty sure the scorching the surface of the planet was only High 6-A, seeing as you're not actually destroying the planet, just giving it a shave.

 

[Northern_Wind00]

You missed the quote where he says: I'll wipe you along with this planets surface" which is multi-continental.

Fair enough. Unless we mysteriously find that seemingly unsourcable quote that states that Saitama punches with the force of half the Big Bang, it appears that Shadow Mewtwo takes this, by virtue of no one being able to actually measure Saitama's upper limits. Unless Mewtwo's physical resistance isn't enough to successfully tank Saitama's opening gambit, which I doubt, going off the observed feats. Planet Buster, if it's assumed to not actually bust planets, isn't a strong enough comparison. I can respect that.

Once again; I move to ban Saitama until EoS or upper limits.

 

[Salamence1234]

Shadow mewtwo for reasons above

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I don't think I've ever seen a necro of this magnitude before

 

[Huesito88]

Necro

 

[Theglassman12]

Gigantic necro, close this.

 

[Nico-v11]

Holy balls was that a 3 year necro?

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Not quite but fairly close

 

[JewishEmperorMugen]

</div> I'm pretty sure the scorching the surface of the planet was only High 6-A, seeing as you're not actually destroying the planet, just giving it a shave. </div>

The "shave the planet" or surface buster thing has been debunked as a mistranslation by murata. The "collapsing star roaring cannon" can destroy the ENTIRE PLANET. Saitama takes this via consecutive normal punches

 

[JewishEmperorMugen]

That didnt come out right :/

The surface buster thing is a CONFIRMED MISTRANSLATION. The author has stated in a livestream that boros would have vaporised the ENTIRE PLANET.

Saitama stomps via consecutive normal punches

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Huge Necro.

https://vsbattles.com/Board/vsbattles/Content_Revision?useskin=oasis

^Go there if you wanna revise a character's statistics, but as it stands Saitama is currently Multi-Continent level while Shadow Mewtwo is Large Planet level

 

[JewishEmperorMugen]

Saitama is planet+ level currently. Webcomic saitama was multicontinent level. The saitama data there is outdated.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

https://vsbattles.com/Board/vsbattles/Content_Revision?useskin=oasis

^Go there if you wanna revise a character's statistics

 

[JewishEmperorMugen]

Thank you.