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- Both begin at Equal Stats (duh)
- Broly can access Wrath, SSJ and SSJFP.
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Saitama vs DBS Broly [Equal Stats]
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Doesnt broly skillstomp? or are they too close?
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TBH Dragon Ball is extremely vague about skill, we just have basic martial arts spammed over and over since Z, and the best stuff about skill we have there are ki control things.
Regardless both Saitama and Broly have showcased to be able to quickly copy others' techniques (Broly with Goku and Vegeta's martial arts and the Ki paralysis, and Saitama with Garou's martial arts).
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the moment the fight starts saitama will already be stronger than base broly lol
his reactive evolution is just too fast and too strong. Not even garou who had it too and could LITERALLY copy his stats why able to keep up.
ssj will make broly what? 50x times stronger? Saitama takes seconds for this without needing to transform
his reactive evolution is just too fast and too strong. Not even garou who had it too and could LITERALLY copy his stats why able to keep up.
ssj will make broly what? 50x times stronger? Saitama takes seconds for this without needing to transform
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Saitama is way more skilled than Broly.
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You talk of the same Broly that managed to catch up from Vegeta's base to his SSJGod in minutes lol.
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consistency is not the best definition for dragon ball.
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No he won't lmao, broly went from base vegeta to god levels in minutes btw, saitama only experienced an increase in power due to an upsurge of emotion because of what garou did to genos iirc. Broly can literally grow MILLIONS of times stronger just in his base form, with the multipliers? It's not close then it turns into a one shot for broly. He also got so strong to where he stomped combined attacks of two super saiyan blues using their strongest blast, and then went on to fight a fusion who surpasses goku and vegeta. This isn't close.
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I think that Broly's power distance against base Vegeta from the beginning of the film to Vegeta ssj god is already greater than Saitama's from the beginning of the fight to Saitama at the end of the fight against Garou
due to multipliers
due to multipliers
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500. He stacks Ikari. LSSJ is far stronger as well.
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Arguing consistency against a guy whose entire thing is insane adaptation is dishonesty and spite.
Plus:
- SSJ is x50
- SSJGod here is x160'000
- SSJBlue here is x8'000'000 off being x50 God
- Wrath is x10
- Broly's SSJ is x500 off being stacked on Wrath
- Base Fusions are far stronger than the Fusees' peak, meaning that if Base Goku is 1:
- Base Gogeta would be 8 millions
- his SSJ 40 millions
- his SSJG would be 1'280'000'000'000 (1.28 trillions)
- his SSJB would be 64'000'000'000'000 (64 trillions)
Broly managed to go from Base to God tier in minutes, adapted well to SSJB through Wrath and SSJ, and then managed to force Gogeta to skip in SSJB with his SSJFP, meaning that he gets a boost that's >x1.28 trillions as well.
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Biggest set up ever Broly not only out adapts look at their pages but he can also learn skills to better fight at a similar level.
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Broly managed to defend himself from Gogeta SSJ, in 1 minute and 34 seconds of fighting in the film Broly managed to force Gogeta to go from SSJ to SSJB which is more than thousands of times stronger than SSJ.
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Broly with just one blast turns Saitama and the verse into atoms, lol
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Me when I can't read the large [Stats Equal] in the title:
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But the verse already has one blast
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give it a few seconds and broly will do it lmao
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dude in ikari state managed to copy and use godbind. WHEN HE WAS coocoo. Broly is not a mindless bruteThere’s no way this sentence left your brain.
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Their first clash of fists would destoy the planet. Only one of these characters would survive that let alone space.
Saitama takes this, KI control isn’t a thing in opm. There will be devistation.
Saitama takes this, KI control isn’t a thing in opm. There will be devistation.
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It's funny you say this, but Saitama and Garou supposedly destroyed several stars with the collision of their fists, but after this happens and they are theoretically much stronger due to their evolution, they don't even destroy Jupiter's moon or anything like that in their fist collisions
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It’s because their fists squared. Saitama’s next punch sent Garou flying off the moon lol Broly would either go flying and die and space, or he’d sit there and tank it and the shockwaves would ripple through and destroy the planet.It's funny you say this, but Saitama and Garou supposedly destroyed several stars with the collision of their fists, but after this happens and they are theoretically much stronger due to their evolution, they don't even destroy Jupiter's moon or anything like that in their fist collisions
For that I vote Saitama.
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Saitama fans with beautiful arguments as always
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Broly not only has the far superior adaptation and amp, but he's a tank too, he was eating attacks from people dozens of times stronger before catching up
He went from weaker than base Vegeta to god level in minutes lmao
Broly stomps
He went from weaker than base Vegeta to god level in minutes lmao
Broly stomps
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Broly FRA.
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Mf knew this, and still set up Saitama
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Garou adaptation allowed him to grow that much over the course of a night (~30 kilotons to ~40 petatons is a x1.2 trillion) before getting everything hyperboosted by god to extreme levels including his growth. Saitama was able to completely statue Garou's rate of growth with his own so he could probably keep up with Broly in that regard. There is the issue of skill though
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The multipliers and so on are cool, but like... he closed a gap of 3 universes through transformations.
So how does the wiki deal with this? The Wrath mode would technically be 10x (especially in PL) because he's an Ozaro, but according to what's accepted on the wiki he went from 2-C (3 universes) to 2-C (6 universes), that is, he closed an infinite gap of power in terms of the wiki.
So how do we deal with this?
So how does the wiki deal with this? The Wrath mode would technically be 10x (especially in PL) because he's an Ozaro, but according to what's accepted on the wiki he went from 2-C (3 universes) to 2-C (6 universes), that is, he closed an infinite gap of power in terms of the wiki.
So how do we deal with this?
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Pretty easy. There are 2 reasons why:
- Gap between universes isn't actually infinite. It's unquantifiable. It's assumed almost all the time to be infinite for VS thread purposes, but indexing wise it's not.
- Even then, Dragon Ball doesn't treat these tier jumps as infinite, but finite. Most notable example is SSJGod, which is clearly still finite and not an uncountable infinite boost despite making Goku from Tier 4 to Tier 2.
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Unquantifiable AP increase>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1.2 Trillion times AP increase
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Broly FRA
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So why isn't SSJGod treated as an uncountable infinite boost (though some here would unironically argue Goku should be Infinite speed off that)?
How the verse treats gaps takes precedence over how the wiki does.
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You said it was an unquantifiable increase, IDK what you are trying to say.
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Is unquantifiable because the distance between universes can be literally anything between less than the radius of the observable universe to infinite.
You're confusing "unquantifiable" with "beyond measurable numbers", it's just unknown, especially given that the average scaling chain here is treated as an unquantifiable AP increase too without multipliers on this wiki.
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Really, just here for fun and games
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Ok, I get it now.
