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Saint Seiya High Godly Regenerationn

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Inspired by this thread here; https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3276215


Table of Contents


1.) The High Godly Regenerationn.

2.) The Negation of High Godly Regen, and Immortality Negation

3.) Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation.

4.) Short Summary.


High Godly Regenerationn


The gods currently have Mid-Godly Regen based upon a Concept in which they embody. https://imgur.com/a/OlzCR

Hades is the God of "The Underworld." He is the god who embodies "The concept of the Afterlife". Once he was defeated we get confirmation that He dies, but also his "Underworld" dies with him. He then fades out of existence. https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png

However, in a later continuation of the series We do seem him again. From Episode G Assassins https://imgur.com/a/sU0HhWM

Code:
"Page 5

Deathtoll: It started.

DT: If we can say.

DT: Is it time to pay for our sins? It is already too late to die.

DT: Where do humans come from?

DT: Where are they going?

DT: How will they disappear?

Pages 6-7

DT: The death of humans will disappear.

DT: From now on, the only world open to humans will be ...

DT: ... absolute nothingness.

Page 8

DT: How long can you hold this?

DT: I'm counting on you ... to produce the final moment.

DT: Hades, emperor of darkness.

Page 9

Hades (?): How long ...

Hades (?) ... can you handle it?

Hades (?): From now on ...

Hades (?): ... the collapse is destiny.

Hades (?): I ...

Pages 10-11

Hades (?): ... tells you everything.

Hades (?): It's destiny." "Chapter 105: Chaos

Page 1

Aiolia: From the bottom of my troubled conscience ...

Aiolia: ... I'm looking for answers.

Aiolia: I know who I am but ...

Aiolia: ... why is not it clear?

Pages 2-3

Aiolia: Where am I from?

Aiolia: Where am I going?

Aiolia: And what am I becoming?

Aiolos: Yes ...

Aiolos: Awaken ...

Aiolos: And ...

Pages 4-5

Aiolos: ... so that you go back ...

Aiolos: ... by my side ...

Aiolos:. .. I will go so far as to destroy the entire universe.

Pages 6-7

Chaos Aiolia: Big brother ...

Aiolos: Aiolia ...

Aiolos: GENRÔMAJINKEN

Pages 8-9

DIRECT HIT

Page 10

Seiya: Ornaments of Gold Cloth Aiolia ...

Seiya: ... are tinted a deep purple.

Seiya: They pulsate like the blood flowing in the veins !!?

Page 11

Aiolia: It wakes up my Ninth Sense ...

Aiolia: Is this compensation?

Aiolia: The power of chaos.

Pages 12-13

Aiolia: The world will be tinged with absolute darkness.

Pages 14-15

Aiolia: LIGHTNING VOID

Pages 16-17

BLACK NUCLEUS COLLAPSE (obviously, it causes a black hole that allows resurrections and interdimensional trips).

Pages 18-19

CHAIN DESTRUCTION

DISAPPEARANCE OF THE WORLD OF DEATHS

Deathtoll: It's happened so far ... That's good too ...

Deathtoll: I have faith in the life force of the remaining world ...

Deathtoll: Goodbye.

Aiolos: Hin ... Hin ... Hinhin ...

Page 20

Aiolos: Everything ends ... Humans of the blue star ...

Aiolos: Our star, dyed by the red of destruction and lamentations .. .

Aiolos ... you devour all."

Code: 
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From Chapter 105 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1niThtl-IvWco2_LNah26_Rg4topTtgq_VVeIQCBryhA/mobilebasic Chapter 103 near the bottom, and Chapter 105)

we know it was main timeline Hades. Main Timeline Hades appeared to hold off an attack from Zeus during an ongoing fight. Though, he does get overpowered.

but my point is that Hades revived after the collapse of his Underworld, the concept he embodies, his realities and him along with those.

Episode G Assassins takes place after the classic series. Hades revived along with his concept of the Underworld https://i.imgur.com/ff7q8Cl.jpg


Hades Appeared During a fight the Main Characters were having aganist Zeus, and during that fight Zeus used an ability that blew away the Underworld.


We also have another instance of something similar happening though in a different canon part of the series. These are different characters, but they are Gods who "Embody" something and their "World" which is "The Concept they embody" does collapse, and they revive.

Morpheus is the creator. He is the ruler of Morphia https://i.imgur.com/J1nTFlK.jpg

He controls the dreams of Heroes, Kings, and Gods. https://i.imgur.com/vtHUtPq.jpg

He was defeated by Pegasus Tenma using a God Cloth https://i.imgur.com/BOdfYJA.jpg

And Morphia the place he rules over where he controls the concept he embodies Collapses as well after his defeat https://i.imgur.com/XPZWXKn.jpg

Later he was seen revived soon after https://i.imgur.com/GIstLIa.jpg


Regen Negation, and Immortality Negation (Types 3; 4; 6; 8; and 9)


  • The Weapons of the Gods, and other "Divine Weapons." Have notable properties that negate Regenerationn, and immortalities in such a way that it permanently kills the god.
  • Zeus has the weapon known as "Keraunos." This allowed him to have an advantage against the Titans. This weapon was that of lightning. Aiolia was able to permanently kill several Titans because he possessed the same weapon as Zeus. This was because Aiolia is the host body for Zeus. https://i.imgur.com/5MNT7bB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hOrAc77.jpg


Code:
P04-05

Lightning Bolt!

Zeus: Why did your younger brother ...

Zeus: ... possessed the power of lightning?

Zeus: And the weapon that allowed me to prevail during the fighting against the Titans ...

Zeus: The Keraunos, whose privilege is reserved for me ...

Zeus: The one who was able to use it was the Gold Saint Aiolia of Leo.

Zeus: It's because this man ...

P06-07

Zeus: ... was born to allow the supreme god Zeus to descend on Earth.

Zeus: A host of god.

Zeus: The one you see here is Me, Zeus. Your brother has ...

Zeus: ... forever gone.

Zeus: The golden bow and arrow blessed by Athena are destroyed ...

Zeus: ... and it is now impossible for you to destroy me while I have this new body.

Zeus: You can not save this world, Athena, the humans, your comrades still well ...

Zeus: ... your brother.

Zeus: Die then without being able to do anything with it.

Aiolos: Aiolia !! [1] [Very top of the page]

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Related Scans: https://i.imgur.com/ToAvI9n.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vvnVDYs.jpg

  • As you can see Hades was confident that he could kill Athena.
  • Athena herself also has a way to negate Regenerationn, and immortalities. For example, one of the most powerful beings in the verse Typhon had his "True Body" completely destroyed by Athena. When Typhon revived in a host body he through a tantrum because of this. This caused him to lose a significant portion of his power, and he needed to create a new "True Body." https://i.imgur.com/MqodZUh.jpg


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Resistance to Regeneation Negation, and Immortality Negation.


  • As I outlined the "Possibility" of Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation. There is some gods whom may have shown resistance to such abilities Athena, as I outlined in the last paragraph above here in the last section, was able to completely destroy the "True Body" of Typhon which prevented it from returning.
  • This should scale to a form of Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation for Typhon, but this would also affect Hades.
  • As I outlined Hades returning later in the series in the "High Godly Regenerationn" section. This might end up scaling to "Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation" for Hades as well. Zeus was resisted a Bow Blessed by Athena's power, and his own host body turned on him using his own power, and weapon against himself https://i.imgur.com/zV9Dmgk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yNuFKF9.jpg Zeus later returns after being killed off

Code:
"P01


Zeus: "It all began with us."


Zeus: You're wrong, Shura.


Zeus: It all started with me.


Zeus: I recovered the body I lost ...


Zeus: ... to start the right story ...


Zeus: ... Rebuilding the world ruled by the gods on Earth.


Zeus: The Sky ... The Submarine Kingdom ... Hell ... And the Earth ...


Zeus: Everything will be under the control of the gods."

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https://imgur.com/a/tro5sel Lastly, we have Saturn. Saturn was pierced by the Golden dagger shown in the last section. https://i.imgur.com/GSV5fJS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XoVyyDK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OAfc6BR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Gevb6C4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VbiFQYM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/COQsuac.jpg Saturn acknowledges that the Dagger would suffice to kill a God, but he later laughs it off, and regenerates the damage caused by it. https://i.imgur.com/PmLasLp.png https://i.imgur.com/Itbm5Sw.png https://i.imgur.com/S8zGfzv.png


The Summary


The Gods regenerate from the concept they are affilated with (Or they are the concept). Their existence are intertwined, and should be apart of each other. https://imgur.com/a/OlzCR


1.) Hades Concept is his Underworld. When he died (he faded out of existence) his Underworld (His concept) went with him.we later see him again in Episode G Assassins fending off an attack aganist Zeus while the Main Bronze Saints made Gold Saints fight Zeus.Though Zeus used an attack made to hit the Bronze made Gold Saints, but the secondary effects destroyed the underworld. This is simply to show that Hades did revive. (High Godly Regenerationn)


2.) The Dream Gods were killed [2] [3] [4]. and they were later shown revived. Their "Concept" also crumbled with them. It took a "Divine Weapon/Holy Weapon" to kill them to a point where they can't revive. (High Godly Regenerationn)


3.) The Gods have weapons that have properties allowing them to kill other Gods. Kronus, The Titan King, created a dagger specifically designed to kill Athena. The dagger was aslo acknolwedged to be able to suffice to kill a god. (Regen-Immortality Negation) [5] [6] [7] [8]


4.) Kronos, The Titan King, permenantly killed Uranus. (Regen-immortality Negation) [9] [10] [11]


5.) Gaia created weapons for the Titans that could kill gods. (Regen and Immortallity negation) [12] [13]


6.) Capricorn El Cid's Excalibur killed the dream gods. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]


7.) Athena destroyed the true body of Typhon, and he had to create a new true body. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [19]


8.) Aiolia using Zeus's weapon killed 2 Titans. Both titans were sent to the underworld. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [20] [21] [22] [23]


9.) Athena destroyed the true body of Typhon, but he later revived. Hades had his true body, and the concept that he is destroyed with him. He was later seen revived even though Athena can kill other Gods. (Regen and Immortality Negation Resistance)


10.) Saturn regenerated after being stabbed by the Dagger that Kronos the titan king made. (Regen and Immortality Negation Resistance)

11.) Zeus returns after being killed. Zeus fought against Typhon whom had to seal Zeus away instead of outright killing him. Zeus also fought a way against Kronos, the Titan King, that lasted for years. (Resistance to Regenerationn, and Immortality Negation)


High Godly Regen scaling = Likely all the Gods, or at least only Hades.

Regenerationn, and Immortality Negation Scaling = All the Gods, and Users whom have divine weapons.

Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation = Hades, Typhon, Saturn, and Zeus.


Immortality Negation on Types Types 3; 4; 6; 8; and 9

Regenerationn Negation up to High Godly
 
High Godly thingy: I'm incredulous to it at first, but after you explained the conceptual thingy, I'm convinced of it (I agree)

Regen Negation & Resistances: Well, I think those seems fine. I'm iffy on the Athena one for a while, but then I think over and over, then I'm also fine with it (Hades gets High Godly not because he regens from Athena, but because his own feat). Who scale to this would be discussed later in the Thread.
 
I think your reasons for High Godly are bit stretched.

1. The underworld is a physical place, for you to say that it's Hades concept, you would have to provide information that is described as such.

2. Hades created the underworld and when he died it went with him. It can't be hades Concept if he created it. And it going with him when he died means its reliant on him.
 
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The gods are reliant on the concept they rule over/embody for their Regenerationn. I do have my own scans for Possibly conceptual manipulation/abstract existence, but I'll have to grab them from my laptop only when I get home.
 
@Lthesavant its unknown. we know he beat him, but the Immortalities they have are mostly for their Regenerationn like nature, or their true bodies are in some other world, After Thanatos and Hypnos was defeated they never appeared on screen again iirc

@Antvasima I am going to write a better looking summary for people and then i will message them. i did message the knowledgable members though
 
The Gods regenerate from the concept they are affilated with (Or they are the concept). Their existence are intertwined, and should be apart of each other. https://imgur.com/a/OlzCR


1.) Hades Concept is his Underworld. When he died (Or faded out of existence?) his Underworld (His concept) went with him.we later see him again in Episode G Assassins fending off an attack aganist Zeus while the Main Bronze Saints made Gold Saints fight Zeus.Though Zeus used an attack made to hit the Bronze made Gold Saints, but the secondary effects destroyed the underworld. This is simply to show that Hades did revive. (High Godly Regenerationn)


2.) The Dream Gods were killed [1] [2] [3]. and they were later shown revived. Their "Concept" also crumbled with them. It took a "Divine Weapon/Holy Weapon" to kill them to a point where they can't revive. (High Godly Regenerationn)


3.) The Gods have weapons that have properties allowing them to kill other Gods. Kronus, The Titan King, created a dagger specifically designed to kill Athena. The dagger was aslo acknolwedged to be able to suffice to kill a god. (Regen-Immortality Negation) [4] [5] [6] [7]


4.) Kronos, The Titan King, permenantly killed Uranus. (Regen-immortality Negation) [8] [9] [10]


5.) Gaia created weapons for the Titans that could kill gods. (Regen and Immortallity negation) [11] [12]


6.) Capricorn El Cid's Excalibur killed the dream gods. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [13] [14] [15] [16] [17]


7.) Athena destroyed the true body of Typhon, and he had to create a new true body. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [18]


8.) Aiolia using Zeus's weapon killed 2 Titans. Both titans were sent to the underworld. (Regen and Immortality Negation) [19] [20] [21] [22]


9.) Athena destroyed the true body of Typhon, but he later revived. Hades had his true body, and the concept that he is destroyed with him. He was later seen revived even though Athena can kill other Gods. (Regen and Immortality Negation Resistance)


10.) Saturn regenerated after being stabbed by the Dagger that Kronos the titan king made. (Regen and Immortality Negation Resistance)

11.) Zeus returns after being killed. Zeus fought against Typhon whom had to seal Zeus away instead of outright killing him. Zeus also fought a way against Kronos, the Titan King, that lasted for years. (Resistance to Regenerationn, and Immortality Negation)


High Godly Regen scaling = Likely all the Gods, or at least only Hades.

Regenerationn, and Immortality Negation Scaling = All the Gods, and Users whom have divine weapons.

Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation = Hades, Typhon, Saturn, and Zeus.


Immortality Negation on Types Types 3; 4; 6; 8; and 9

Regenerationn Negation up to High Godly


This is subject to edits before finalizing it
 
For Eris, yes, it's stated that as long as conflict exists she will return, that is relient immortality type 8.

But for Hades and the Dream gods, you're saying that the spaces they ruled over are their concepts. But I just don't see that supported by the text. And also those spaces were destroyed upon their own demise. I don't think that warrants High-Godly for Hades to be able to regenerate after his underworld was destroyed. In fact, he created the underworld, meaning he predated it.

Now if it was the other way around, that the underworld predated Hades, or even created him, and the underworld was destroyed and then caused Hades to be destroyed, and then hades regenerated after underworld was gone, then I could see it.

As for the immortality and Regenerationn negation, yes. Agree. And for the resistance to Regenerationn Negation. Yes.
 
The scans don't say that Tartarus is apart of Hade's underworld. While in original greek myths, Tartarus is apart of the underworld, this doesn't seem to be the case for Saint Seiya.

It also would be a huge contradicition, Hades created the undreworld, if tartarus was apart of Hades's underworld, that would mean he had created it too. That's just a huge contradicition.

Also, yes, the Dream Worlds are part of underworld as the dream gods are under Hypnos, who in turn served Hades.
 
The Titans were sealed off into the world of the dead. The Underworld is often refferred to as "The World of the Dead.' Tatarus is also the place they sealed at, and they made their base there. https://i.imgur.com/3WtHbyH.jpg

When the Titans are defeated they return to Tartarus https://i.imgur.com/xMuSxxT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QfciPEs.jpg Hades also escorted Kronos, the Titan King, to Tartarus https://img-yes.filestatic1.xyz/images/saint-seiya-episode-g/87/174-175.png.webp

In Saint Seiya Episode G Aassassins: The sanctuary went aganist Athena's orders and is trying to revive Gold Saints. The Gold Saints that are revived, revived from Taratarus https://i.imgur.com/M0rHwmK.jpg

and we see Hades himself escorting Camus https://i.imgur.com/8Np1t2l.jpg
That whole explanation is the first few scans here https://imgur.com/a/KYwZsAB

Lastly, The Underworld exist outside of Time. It doesn't transcend it, but it doesn't follow a flow of time. https://i.imgur.com/bFPqvQ7 https://i.imgur.com/6MdTmeD.jpg png https://i.imgur.com/6MdTmeD.jpg

To finish this,

Was there a time when Athena referred to Hades as her Brother? I don't recall an instance of that happening if i remember properly. I remember her calling him a God, or calling him by name.

Though Zeus did talk to poseidon directly, and Zeus reffered to Poseidon as a brother, but when Hades was holding things together. Zeus and Hades didn't talk at all. Even though Hades, and Poseidon were trying to do the same thing. Save the humans from Zeus.

Athena also did refferr to Poseidon as her brother, and she shown a more odd level of trust to him when compared to Hades/

The other Gods we saw that interacted with Hades also reffered to Hades as "Lord" something like "God." I don't recall an instance of them reffering to him as family, but i only remember him being reffered to as a superior. Again this is only if my memory is remembering everything properly.

When Kronos descended down into the Underworld/Tartarus. He spoke to Hades casually as if addressing a friend instead of a child that overthrew him. Hades also had a look on his face as if sad for Kronos. Kronos also trusted Hades to keep a promise, and Hades did follow through with it. Kronos's first words to hades when translated from Portuguese was "Hades you were watching everything! I know you were!" Implying that Kronos knew Hades long enough to know what his tendencies/Habits were.

If you go back enough, or early enough in the history of the Saint Seiya verse. There was a time when there was only Immortals. This was a time before "Humans" existed. Back then there wasn't a needed for an "Afterlife" but a need for an "Eternal Punishment.

Gaia was the Earth, Pontos the Ocean, and Uranus the Sky. Possibly Chronos of time, and Abzu of Creation, and Darkness. Then if Tartarus existed in Uranus's time. Then there was a god for it too, and Hades seems to be a match.

It kind of does make sense since we do have a a bit of feats for Hades underworld existing without a flow of Time.

The possibility of Hades originally being a Titan, or older, is possible. Saint seiya verse doens't have to faithfully follow the original mythology.

Anyways, humans didn't exist until some time after the war with the Titans. During that point in time. There was only immortals, and other divine beings to lesser extents. They didn't feel death. It wasn't until Humans were around when a "Concept of an Afterlife" was needed. We get an example of what life without an afterlife is like in Episode G Assassins. "The death of humans will disappear, and there will be nothing." https://imgur.com/a/sU0HhWM Maybe hes tied to the concept of death too? but it disappears with him?

Hades created the Underworld to create "Fear" aganist the gods to humans. What better way to create fear in "Finite" beings than "what comes after Death?"

It wouldn't be impossible. there is already more than 1 god for multiple aspects

Okaneos, Pontos, Poesidon, and Wadatsumi for example. 4 gods of the oceand and sea

There is 4 gods for dreaming, and hypnos could likely be a 5th

Uranus was a sky god before dying... Now its Zeus..

Ra, Amaterasu, and Apollo for Gods of the Sun, and Aphophis was a former sun God

Kairos, Primordial God Chronos (ND), Kronos the Titan King (G), and Saturn are all gods of Time.

Abzu, and fallen Apophis are gods of darkness

So hades, and Thanatos both being gods of death wouldn't be too far out of reach. Though Thanatos stated he did "Preside" over Death. idk if that makes a difference though..
 
I'd love if you can recommend who should be asked regarding Regenerationn and Conceptual Manipulation too, as this CRT also cover those as well.
 
I don't agree with this.

Only the Primordial Gods are conceptual beings. All other gods simply rule realms and have dominion over certain aspects of reality like death, time, war, etc. They represent them, sure, but not in the way primordial gods personify them.

For example, Chronos (Primordial God) is the divine personification of time, while Cronus (Titan) has dominion over time.

The gods just have Mid-Godly, while the primordials likely have High-Godly as they had to be sealed away and couldn't even be destroyed by great gods like Zeus.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
The scans don't say that Tartarus is apart of Hade's underworld. While in original greek myths, Tartarus is apart of the underworld, this doesn't seem to be the case for Saint Seiya.

It also would be a huge contradicition, Hades created the undreworld, if tartarus was apart of Hades's underworld, that would mean he had created it too. That's just a huge contradicition.

Also, yes, the Dream Worlds are part of underworld as the dream gods are under Hypnos, who in turn served Hades.
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Tartarus is the primordial underworld. Hades created his underworld on top of Tartarus. Tartarus exists beneath Hades just like it does in Greek Myth. We see this in Episode G. Before falling to Tartarus again, Cronus first falls through Hades where he meets his son (then he exchanges his dunamis with Hades so Aiolia can return to the living world) and then falls deeper into Tartarus.
 
Only the Primordial Greek Gods (Gaia, Uranus, Pontos, Erebus, etc.) The Titans and Olympians are just rulers of concepts but not conceptual beings. Zeus rules Heaven but doesn't personify it. Uranus is the personification of Heaven.
 
I think that Sera makes sense. Thank you for helping out.
 
Sera EX said:
Only the Primordial Greek Gods (Gaia, Uranus, Pontos, Erebus, etc.) The Titans and Olympians are just rulers of concepts but not conceptual beings. Zeus rules Heaven but doesn't personify it. Uranus is the personification of Heaven.
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I will have a counter Response once I get home i will be home within about 8 to 10 hours from now.

Edit: what about the other abilities outside of the high godly Regen?
 
Sera EX said:
I don't agree with this.
Only the Primordial Gods are conceptual beings. All other gods simply rule realms and have dominion over certain aspects of reality like death, time, war, etc. They represent them, sure, but not in the way primordial gods personify them.

For example, Chronos (Primordial God) is the divine personification of time, while Cronus (Titan) has dominion over time.

The gods just have Mid-Godly, while the primordials likely have High-Godly as they had to be sealed away and couldn't even be destroyed by great gods like Zeus.
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The primordial gods (Gea, Uranus y Pontus) in StS do not embody concepts. On the contrary, some non-primordial gods such as Eris and Chronus embody the very concept they represent.

In Next Dimension, Chronus was never described as primordial, because it is only described as a god that transcends all other gods, therefore it is a god superior to the olympic gods (the most powerful gods), primordial gods, titans and other gods.

Sera EX said:
Tartarus is the primordial underworld. Hades created his underworld on top of Tartarus. Tartarus exists beneath Hades just like it does in Greek Myth. We see this in Episode G. Before falling to Tartarus again, Cronus first falls through Hades where he meets his son (then he exchanges his dunamis with Hades so Aiolia can return to the living world) and then falls deeper into Tartarus.
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Well, Hades dominates the entire world the of death in StS, even he dominates Tartarus, which is also part of his world. That is why the world of the death (Underworld, Elysium, Shadow of the Underworld, Tartarus, etc.) was destroyed by the Black Nucleus and Zeus when Hades can no longer stop the destruction.

In the last scene of Episode.G when Hades speaks with Cronus they are in Tartarus, and Hades releases Aiolia from Tartarus (because he dominates this place) and sends them back to the world of the living.

In Episode.G Assassin it is shown that Hades only exists as the world of the death (which is in ruins after its destruction at the end of the manga), because Athena destroyed the body and soul of the god at the end of the battle. When the power of Hades is defeated by the Black Nucleus and the attack of Zeus, the world of the death is destroyed and all living beings or souls (gods, mortals, etc.) will fall into the world of the emptiness, because Hades embodies the world of the death in Saint Seiya.

Diinou HotHead said:
What are we gonna do with Eris being reliant on conflicts?
Is it her own ability that don't scale to other Gods?
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Shura says that if he kills Athena, the goddess may return after an unknown period of time. Although it is unknown if she returns because she embodies a concept or something like that.
 
TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
Regenerationn, and Immortality Negation Scaling = All the Gods, and Users whom have divine weapons.

Resistance to Regenerationn Negation, and Immortality Negation = Hades, Typhon, Saturn, and Zeus.
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I agree with this.

I add:
- Cronus also survived and was able to regenerate after several attacks by Saga with the Golden Dagger, a weapon to kill gods.
- Athena with the eighth sense can also return after she was injured or killed with this dagger.
 
The term "primordial god" isn't exactly used. The actual term id "great god" and with the exception of Cronus and Zeus, all the Great Gods are the primordial gods of Greek Myth. They personify their domains. Gaia is the Earth, Uranus is the Sky etc. "Concepts" is just a word people love throwing around nowadays.

Gods return after death because of their Mid Godly regen. Not because they embody concepts. Athena doesn't embody any concept, even if she is representative of love and justice.
 
In Episode.G the author uses the term of primordial god to describe this group gods and the highest gods are the olympians (described by Hypnos in the original manga). And as I said Uranus, Gea and Pontus do not embody their domains in StS, because these gods are not the heavens, the earth and the primordial sea. The god Uranus is even dead after his fight with Cronus.

In Episode.G Assassin, Hades embodies his domain, the world of the death; therefore, the gods that embody their dominance in the universe of StS are Eris, Chronus, Hades and Tartarus (now a god of lesser rank than Hades or a servant of this god, who currently dominates and embodies the entire world of the death), and also for the continuity of the anime are Apsu (which embodies the darkness of the beginning) and Saturn (which embodies the time).
 
@Sera

So what should we do here?
 
I have a counter response coming. I ran into irl issues so I couldn't do it yesterday, and im not in a position to do it right now.

But I do have a question for sera. What if a type 2 acasual being that has properties of midgodly Regen Currently was erased/killed in mind, body and soul? I'd that still midgodly?
 
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