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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

AerrowStorm1 said:
Because they're not based on the Catholic idea of God, they're based on the messy ass Greek Gods.
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StekFence said:
Well I am admittedly trying to talk about it in a more complicated way. So basically, it really depends on where you think morality comes from. If you say it comes from the divine, well there you go, they are gods so it’s justice to kill humanity. And if you think it comes from idk, intuition, they’ve been thinking about this millennia so also there you go.
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MeiouHades said:
They're based on the "sinful Gods" of our own, real life mythologies. Do you think Gods are supposed to be these benevolent, all-loving entities?
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I am not a theologist here so I am deeply confused, please explain.
 
Well, there’s no real reason to pre assume that a divine being must be moral. Unless you were perhaps conflating it with a pre existing idea of a moral god, like in Judeo-Christianity. So your question just seems odd unless asked from that perspective to many people
 
In many religions, a god is “simply” a being of extraordinary power, usually related to some aspect of the universe. As essentially a really strong person, they have the flaws of people. And just as fictional humans may be extremely evil, such a god might also be extraordinarily evil.
 
More "Gods are tied to concepts and human belief" stuff from Saint Seiya Requiem.

One of the Great Gods explains gods are powered by human worship, but more explictly their FEAR.

Like, this is a Great God no one had even heard of, Metis. Her concept was "creation from nothing" and Shiryu beat her. Then she explains about worhip and fear and she explictly says that FEAR of these concepts leads to humans reaching out to something "anything" to protect them, and that empowers the gods.

Except Athena, who embodies hope instead of fear
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
More "Gods are tied to concepts and human belief" stuff from Saint Seiya Requiem.

One of the Great Gods explains gods are powered by human worship, but more explictly their FEAR.

Like, this is a Great God no one had even heard of, Metis. Her concept was "creation from nothing" and Shiryu beat her. Then she explains about worhip and fear and she explictly says that FEAR of these concepts leads to humans reaching out to something "anything" to protect them, and that empowers the gods.

Except Athena, who embodies hope instead of fear
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This is also why Lost Worlds Aiolos wanted to empower the Saints to the point they could battle with and defeat the gods without having to resort to divine power boosts or artifacts. He says it himself, he is the one who "puts the fear of death in gods". Because he wanted to take away their status, and by doing so, render them a "meaningless concept"
 
Not only is classic and LC directly canon to it, which was expected, but so is OMEGA of all things, along with the Asgard arc, as both Saturn and Odin and Hilda cameo in DW
 
StekFence said:
K so DW just kinda negged our canon split lmao
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