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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

Most went down pretty easily when the God cloth equivalent was used and one just went down through use of the 8th sense so have to be lower on the god tier.
 
Yeah I’m not gonna say they were particularly higher than that. For one, terp is straight up a goddess. Bellerophon can fight with the first Pegasus saint, who’s above his own god cloth self. There’s some more examples
 
Bellerophon survived a lightning bolt from Zeus but he did noting against Pegasus.

Best example is at lest one of the Spirts was able to fight 2 Divine Scaled Mariners for a bit.
 
KoolRay said:
he did noting against Pegasus.
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I mean, he survived, that’s more then we can say for god cloth Pegasus. Cadmus easily beat Arch Scale Kaasa, and then gets one shot by a different one. And then the last of the Spirits is like, blessed by two Olympians or something.
 
StekFence said:
I mean, he survived, that’s more then we can say for god cloth Pegasus. Cadmus easily beat Arch Scale Kaasa, and then gets one shot by a different one. And then the last of the Spirits is like, blessed by two Olympians or something.th sense
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Cadmus never laid a hand on Kaasa but that boxer guy did basically one shot him. Tho makes me wonder if Arch Scale<8th sense
 
Welcome back MeiouHades it seems you survived Hasty's attack, now we can add overtime high godly regen to your profile 🤗
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StekFence said:
I would just scale Pollux over Arch Scales instead, he is a demigod afterall. Also clothless Kanon being that strong is really funny actually
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Likely best not to over think it but would that mean every saint active in the Underworld at the time was that strong?
 
Dunno. Logically he has no reason to be stronger then Arch Scale mariners who are god tiers. But he is. Scaleless at that
 
StekFence said:
Probably not. 7th sense saints were not depicted as fodder, Kanon is just suddenly stronger
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Hmmm while not fodder8th sense Kanon was going to be killed by a Judge according to them at least if not stopped.

8th sense bronze saints were able to hurt the twins to a minor degree also, least Seiya and Ikki, not saying it all makes sense but something to think about I guess.

Did any non 8th sense users fight 7th sense?
 
It is. If we treated that as legit, then you got the gap between than and seiya being smaller then the gap he had with, idk saga or something.
 
Saint Seiya is the only verse where the characters can go from Speed of Light to Infinite just from a change of armor. Please tell me that Saint Seiya isn't going through any sort of revisions right now?
 
MichaelCalistro said:
Saint Seiya is the only verse where the characters can go from Speed of Light to Infinite just from a change of armor. Please tell me that Saint Seiya isn't going through any sort of revisions right now?
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Oh the armor isn’t what actually makes them faster. The increased speed and armor comes from the same thing, the strength of their cosmo. (Although wearing the armor, does also make them faster) I’m fairly sure it’s on the profiles. Also, that’s literally Ironmans whole thing.
 
StekFence said:
Oh the armor isn’t what actually makes them faster. The increased speed and armor comes from the same thing, the strength of their cosmo. (Although wearing the armor, does also make them faster) I’m fairly sure it’s on the profiles. Also, that’s literally Ironmans whole thing.
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Don't you mean Batman? He started the entire armor geek long before Iron Man was created.
 
Gold Saints from Episode G are stated to be far exceeds the speed of light. Speed of light is just the baseline, they're much faster via burning their cosmo.
 
KoolRay said:
Going over guidebooks in classic both anime and manga golds can go beyond LP
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Even if you're right, we don't exactly know how much faster than light Manga Gold Saints are, and that does nothing to rectify the problem of Kurumada routinely resetting them back to lightspeed and making it some nigh-unachievable stat almost every arc. For the anime at least you have Camus' attack touching the Aquarius constellation in a few seconds that can be used to scale 7th sense and above characters.
 
MeiouHades said:
Even if you're right, we don't exactly know how much faster than light Manga Gold Saints are, and that does nothing to rectify the problem of Kurumada routinely resetting them back to lightspeed and making it some nigh-unachievable stat almost every arc. For the anime at least you have Camus' attack touching the Aquarius constellation in a few seconds that can be used to scale 7th sense and above characters.
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Point being made was it is established above light speed is something that's noted. It's really being reset it's just the consistent baseline for gold saints. As for anime SOG and Omega also has faster than light statements.
 
KoolRay said:
Point being made was it is established above light speed is something that's noted. It's really being reset it's just the consistent baseline for gold saints. As for anime SOG and Omega also has faster than light statements.
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You're missing my point. Even though I agree that manga gold saints surpass LS, the problem is, we don't know by how much, and that problem is compounded when it continuously keeps getting reset. LS is the baseline for gold saints, but not the main five, at least not until the Poseidon arc or arguably the Hades arc (ignoring the Mach 18 nonsense). The only real, measurable value you have is Hecate returning from a few thousand lightyears after Chronos scatters her in ND, but even that isn't without problems. As for anime, like I said, you don't need statements when you have feats.
 
You're missing my point. Even though I agree that manga gold saints surpass LS, the problem is, we don't know by how much, and that problem is compounded when it continuously keeps getting reset. LS is the baseline for gold saints, but not the main five, at least not until the Poseidon arc or arguably the Hades arc (ignoring the Mach 18 nonsense). The only real, measurable value you have is Hecate returning from a few thousand lightyears after Chronos scatters her in ND, but even that isn't without problems. As for anime, like I said, you don't need statements when you have feats.
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The point was going off of 98 comment that "Speed of light is just the baseline, they're much faster via burning their cosmo" I stated why it works the same in the classic manga/anime. Your point I'm guessing is we don't know how much faster and how fast the bronze saints are, which is something to talk about but would still be baseline LP to whatever is the highest speed feat.


As for anime, like I said, you don't need statements when you have feats.
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Like you said? You did not say anything like that yet.
 
MeiouHades said:
You're missing my point. Even though I agree that manga gold saints surpass LS, the problem is, we don't know by how much, and that problem is compounded when it continuously keeps getting reset. LS is the baseline for gold saints, but not the main five, at least not until the Poseidon arc or arguably the Hades arc (ignoring the Mach 18 nonsense). The only real, measurable value you have is Hecate returning from a few thousand lightyears after Chronos scatters her in ND, but even that isn't without problems. As for anime, like I said, you don't need statements when you have feats.
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The Mach 18 stuff is really disingenuous because Seiya overcomes it the moment he wants to. The bronzes post Poseidon arc can go light speed whenever they want, it’s usually the enemies assuming they’re bronzes that say they’re Mach speeds. It doesn’t help that the bronzes don’t seem to have mastered the 7th sense, so they don’t live at light speed like the golds do, they’re more like Goku who can be tagged by bullets when not raising their cosmo to a certain level.
 
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TrueBK98 said:
Can someone give me a summary of the current multiverse timelines?
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Sure

So currently we accept that spin offs more or less happen in different timelines of the same multidimensional universe, manga wise at least.
Dark Wing is it's own timeline, as is LC
G and GA may or may not be the same timeline, but GR is undoubtedly the future of GA
Sho is accepted to be part of Classic
RRoP is likewise accepted to be an alt timeline, as is the more recent Saint Mariya
Time Odyssey is meant to fit with Classic as well I believe, though we are also given a bunch of alternate timelines there too
 
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