Sailor Chaos Acausality

[The_real_cal_howard]

But...I brought that up a while back ;_;

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Fate. You can't just claim different timelines. That's illgoical. There's no evidence to suggest different timelines. You're going to have to prove it yourself.

All sailor crystals holders showed that they were unaffected by events in the past. That's acasuality as described in the wiki. Word for word. Sailor Chaos scales to this becasue she has a sailor crystal.

The wiki says otherwise. You'd have to revise that.

Chaos is not confirmed to be killed by a Time paradox. Please provide evidenece for this.

 

[DodoNova2]

Close this pls, the story with chaos is over

 

[IkaniL]

@Lamun

I'll make a thread about the existence of different timelines in SM later.

But there's more evidence of them than Acausality.

 

[IkaniL]

@Dodo

He should have a fair chance to argue. Despite his stance.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

There's also the fact (which Iamunanimous keeps omitting every single time) that these people who were erased were later restored in the present, thus nullifying said TPI even if it was a single timeline.

Except, when they were erased evey version of them was destoryed, in cluding chibi-usa who was previously unaffected by her dad being dead in the past.

 

[FateAlbane]

There's also the fact (which Iamunanimous keeps omitting every single time) that these people who were erased were later restored in the present, thus nullifying said TPI even if it was a single timeline.

/\ Completely ignored this reply or is it just me?

I don't need to claim different timelines because THEY WERE RESTORED IN THE PRESENT LATER. Therefore the TPI is nullified. Whatever the theory, they don't get it.

And please do look at the Time Paradox Immunity page.

Cosmos literally time-travelled for the purpose of killing Chaos completely so that Sailor Chaos wouldn't exist in the future. Burden of proof is on you to prove she can survive, not on me to prove that she can't, which surprisingly, I already did.

 

[IkaniL]

There's also the fact (which Iamunanimous keeps omitting every single time) that these people who were erased were later restored in the present, thus nullifying said TPI even if it was a single timeline.

Except, when they were erased evey version of them was destoryed, in cluding chibi-usa who was previously unaffected by her dad being dead in the past.

The Galaxy Cauldron erases Timelines. Me and Agent on the OBD had a private discussion about this stuff recently funny enough.

 

[FateAlbane]

Except, when they were erased evey version of them was destoryed, in cluding chibi-usa who was previously unaffected by her dad being dead in the past.

They. Were. Restored. Because they were restored, the time paradox is nullified as the being was restored in the past they were also naturally restored in the future. This is literally what happens.

And now you're contradicting yourself, if every version of them was destroyed they wouldn't be there in the future like you're claiming.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

And anyway, even if you want to use the timeline theory, then taht would mean the galaxy cauldron erased several timelines from existence ( a multiversal feat) including the one Sailor Cosmos came from, yet she was unaffected.

 

[FateAlbane]

@Dodo
He should have a fair chance to argue. Despite his stance.

Actually when discussions go in circles like this one, the side with more support is accepted.

On one side here we have everyone in the thread. On the other there's Iamunanimous.

So this pretty much can be concluded and the changes made as the ammount of support, including two admins, is far superior to the single opposition.

 

[IkaniL]

Restoring just the Sailor Moon cosmos would be a Multi-Universal feat.\

Galaxy Cauldron and Space-Time corridor both have universal and fourth dimensional qualities.

 

[FateAlbane]

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I don't give two chips about whatever feat of destruction they have or don't have.

Acausality and TPI is already debunked and that's the point of this thread. Nothing else.

 

[DodoNova2]

lol the thread is trying to upgrade SM to Multi Universe

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Except, when they were erased evey version of them was destoryed, in cluding chibi-usa who was previously unaffected by her dad being dead in the past.

They. Were. Restored. Because they were restored, the time paradox is nullified as the being was restored in the past they were also naturally restored in the future. This is literally what happens.
And now you're contradicting yourself, if every version of them was destroyed they wouldn't be there in the future like you're claiming.

I can tell you haven't read the manga.

These are the list of events as they took place in plot order

1. They died in the past.

2. Still alive in the future.

3. Erased from every point in the timeline. THe future completely destroyed

4. Everything that was erased was regenerated and future reinstated.

5. Everyone returns are they were before.


My arguements that during the events of 1 and 2 they showed the wiki defintion of acasuality.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

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I don't give two chips about whatever feat of destruction they have or don't have.
Acausality and TPI is already debunked and that's the point of this thread. Nothing else.

You never debunked anything. You just put the onus on alternate timelines that you have yet to provide evidence for. No one has provided evidence for alternate timelines.

 

[FateAlbane]

I can tell you haven't read the manga.

These are the list of events as they took place in plot order

1. They died in the past.

2. Still alive in the future.

3. Erased from every point in the timeline. THe future completely destroyed

4. Everything that was erased was regenerated and future reinstated.

5. Everyone returns are they were before.

• kills self. I can tell you don't have much timeline understanding.

1. They died in the past. But were still alive as seen in the future because later in that same past but before the coming of said future, THEY were eventually restored after all this you mentioned happened. Understand? It's simple, absurdly basic timeline understanding.

 

[DodoNova2]

I will give you an example of Acausality: In Sailor Moon, anyone who does not come from the same spatial time creates distortion that creates paradox that erases the perso if it is close to that of the Timeline, Chibi Chibi is not affected by it, it can Touch, Play ..., Fight and even kiss it without having any Effect:

Neo Queen Serenity is not affected by this also

Cause: Paradox and Erased from Existance

Effect: Nothing

= Acausality

 

[FateAlbane]

You never debunked anything. You just put the onus on alternate timelines that you have yet to provide evidence for. No one has provided evidence for alternate timelines.

>>> There's also the fact (which Iamunanimous keeps omitting every single time) that these people who were erased were later restored in the present, thus nullifying said TPI even if it was a single timeline.

/\ Ignored this again, which I'll quote as many times as you do. Alternate timelines don't even matter.

 

[IkaniL]

Sca

It exist in the threshold between times, which implies timelines. Its plural.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fate keeps on ignoring the fact that I brought it up first ;_;

Acknowledge me sempai!

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I can tell you haven't read the manga.

These are the list of events as they took place in plot order

1. They died in the past.

2. Still alive in the future.

3. Erased from every point in the timeline. THe future completely destroyed

4. Everything that was erased was regenerated and future reinstated.

5. Everyone returns are they were before.

• kills self*

1. They died in the past. But were still alive as seen in the future because later in that same past but before the coming of said future, THEY were eventually restored. Understand? It's simple, basic timeline understand.

No. ETernal Sailor Moon's entire goal through the whole arc was to get their crystals back to bring them back to life. Them getting erased wasn't part of the plan. It changed everything including the course of history.

https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act59/019.jpg

Your'e also forgetting that Chibi-Usa ceased to existed when everyone else was erased, even though she was alive and well when they were dead in the past. This is the main distinction

 

[FateAlbane]

I will give you an example of Acausality: In Sailor Moon, anyone who does not come from the same spatial time creates distortion that creates paradox that erases the perso if it is close to that of the Timeline, Chibi Chibi is not affected by it, it can Touch, Play ..., Fight and even kiss it without having any Effect:
Neo Queen Serenity is not affected by this also

Cause: Paradox and Erased from Existance

Effect: Nothing

= Acausality

That's the same kind of paradox that Funny Valentine uses to TP people out of existence. It's far different from Acausality.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

If everyone being okay at the end was the reason they were alive in the future, why did Chibi-usa dissappear? She's from the future. She should be okay like you said?

 

[IkaniL]

> Cauldron can erase timelines

 

[DodoNova2]

@Cal Can you Close this please the debat it's over

 

[FateAlbane]

At this point, I feel like I can argue with Iamunanimous for an infinity of years and this will keep going in circles. So yeah, like everyone else, I say that this is concluded. I'll count the support and the opposition.