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Sailor Chaos Acausality

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Again, I see only claims that "She/They're acausal" from Iamunanimous over and over based on faulty claims that do not qualify. Either provide proof or I can't take your word on this at face value.

Besides, pretty much everyone save for Iamunanimous agrees that this is not Acausality and should be removed either way.
 
Causality is the flow of cause and effect. The cause happened in the future long after the effect happened. How does that still abide by the rules of Causality?
 
>Causality is the flow of cause and effect. The cause happened in the future long after the effect happened. How does that still abide by the rules of Causality?

Because she only empowered them? not even killed them or affecting them in some negative way, that WOULD have been a good justification for Acausality (Time Paradox but meh)
 
Universal+ Range: Reaches across a timeline.

By your logic every single character in existence with Universal+ range and above is Acausal. It's absurd.
 
- Serenity wasn't aware of the Black Moon attacking.

- Pluto has another story entirely different than her counterpart.

- The senshi don't have their eternal or lambda forms.

- Serenity knew nothing about Galaxia or Chaos attacking them.

Its alternate timelines. Just they can affect eachother.
 
Cause: Neo Queen Serenity does time stuff and empowers Sailor Moon.

Effect: Sailor Moon gets empowered in the past.

This is really basic stuff.
 
That's just it being reliant on the Cauldron, not Acausality.

In that sense, Amakasu Masahiko is Acausal because he will always be back no matter what due to him reviving from people courage or just through his own will.

This isn't justification for Acausality
 
ALRF said:
>Causality is the flow of cause and effect. The cause happened in the future long after the effect happened. How does that still abide by the rules of Causality?
Because she only empowered them? not even killed them or affecting them in some negative way, that WOULD have been a good justification for Acausality (Time Paradox but meh)
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She didn't just empower them, she gave them entirely knew forms, powers, and everything (including her past self). Why would acausality need to be used for negitive effects but not postive effects?
 
@Iamunanimous You're literally taking one scan completely out of context and saying it's acausality. Search anywhere there for any mention of Chaos still existing. What that proves is at best, her already added Mid-Godly regen. Definitely not Acausality.

She can't exist in the future if she is completely destroyed in the past.
 
ALRF said:
That's just it being reliant on the Cauldron, not Acausality.
In that sense, Amakasu Masahiko is Acausal because he will always be back no matter what due to him reviving from people courage or just through his own will.

This isn't justification for Acausality
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Fate claimed that destorying the cauldron would mean getting rid of Chaos for ever and I made the point that it wouldn't. Not for the acauslaity.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
She didn't just empower them, she gave them entirely knew forms, powers, and everything (including her past self). Why would acausality need to be used for negitive effects but not postive effects?
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That's. Universal+. Range! Your powers reach across a timeline, past, present and future.

That's literally it.
 
I'm sorry. But you guys aren't making any sense to me.

"For example, being killed or having one's history changed a significant amount of time in the past through Reality Warping will not affect an Acausal character in the present or future. "

This comes from the page on Acausality. The Senshi were dead in the past yet alive in the future. That completely goes in line with this statement. Unless taht statement is wrong.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Fate claimed that destorying the cauldron would mean getting rid of Chaos for ever and I made the point that it wouldn't. Not for the acauslaity.
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It would because the cauldron kinda would take like, a looooooot of time to appear again and produce any effect so that's a big "OVERTIME regen". We're not given any timeframe and Sailor Cosmos was confident in the final chapter that destroying it completely would allow for Sailor Chaos never to appear. So yeah.

Also if this is not about the Acausality, don't bring it to the table.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
This comes from the page on Acausality. The Senshi were dead in the past yet alive in the future. That completely goes in line with this statement. Unless taht statement is wrong.
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Except that one, that was different timelines.

Two, that's TP Immunity at best, which they still don't get because you know, different timelines.

And finally 3, Chaos is all but confirmed to be affected by Time Paradoxes.

Stop making stuff up. They're not Acausal.
 
@Dodo Well, it's only Iamunanimous insisting on this and everyone else agrees that it should be removed anyways. So yes, this can be safely concluded.
 
FateAlbane said:
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Fate claimed that destorying the cauldron would mean getting rid of Chaos for ever and I made the point that it wouldn't. Not for the acauslaity.
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It would because the cauldron kinda would take like, a looooooot of time to appear again and produce any effect so that's a big "OVERTIME regen". We're not given any timeframe and Sailor Cosmos was confident in the final chapter that destroying it completely would allow for Sailor Chaos never to appear. So yeah.
Also if this is not about the Acausality, don't bring it to the table.
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The Cualdron can send things to any point in thime so it wouldn't matter how long it takes to regenerate. Plus with time travel. A being can take as long as they need to regenreate and come back instatnly to the time where they were destroyed.

And also destroying the cauldron only would work on Chaos cause he was fused with it. All other aspects of Chaos was shown to be seperate especially Death Phantom who came from the future after Chaos was defeated.
 
Yeah, everyone is in agreement that they don't have TPI or Acausality
 
Should mention that Chaos was affecting the future timeline from the main timeline.

Not sure if thats still just Universe+ but could pose something to look into in another thread.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
FateAlbane said:
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Fate claimed that destorying the cauldron would mean getting rid of Chaos for ever and I made the point that it wouldn't. Not for the acauslaity.
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It would because the cauldron kinda would take like, a looooooot of time to appear again and produce any effect so that's a big "OVERTIME regen". We're not given any timeframe and Sailor Cosmos was confident in the final chapter that destroying it completely would allow for Sailor Chaos never to appear. So yeah.
Also if this is not about the Acausality, don't bring it to the table.
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The Cualdron can send things to any point in thime so it wouldn't matter how long it takes to regenerate. Plus with time travel. A being can take as long as they need to regenreate and come back instatnly to the time where they were destroyed.

And also destroying the cauldron only would work on Chaos cause he was fused with it. All other aspects of Chaos was shown to be seperate especially Death Phantom who came from the future after Chaos was defeated.
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No. Serenity wasn't even aware of Chaos' existence. She proved that in the Stars arc.
 
FateAlbane said:
Iamunanimousinthat said:
This comes from the page on Acausality. The Senshi were dead in the past yet alive in the future. That completely goes in line with this statement. Unless taht statement is wrong.
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Except that one, that was different timelines.
Two, that's TP Immunity at best, which they still don't get because you know, different timelines.

And finally 3, Chaos is all but confirmed to be affected by Time Paradoxes.

Stop making stuff up. They're not Acausal.
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There's no differnt timelines. It's all the same timeline. You will have to prove that they mentioned it as not the same timeline.
 
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Plus we have a ton of contradiction of it being a single timeline.
 
Not really since pretty much everyone agrees to it otherwise and you provided 0 things to prove what you're claiming for Acausality or TPI. Also read Ikanil's posts.

It's literally just you claiming otherwise. Without providing proof. And bringing up claims that were debunked over and over. So yeah.
 
Regarding the Timeline Multiple, I would talk about it later, this is neither the place nor the time to talk about it so stop. speak in the SM Thread
 
It being a single timeline is heavily contradicted in-verse. And while its not directly identified, their being multiple isn't contradicted either.
 
@Dodo

The only contradiction is they never directly explained them from what I recall.

Plus, there's alot more contradiction on a single then there would be on multiple.
 
For one, again, different timelines.

For two, that has 0 to do with Chaos, which in case you didn't notice, is the one in the title. Giving feats from a character to another? What? So I can, say, give fodder the powers of Sailor Cosmos?

For three, even if I assumed everything, that would be TPI at best. Not acausality. And definitely not for Chaos who is confirmed to be capable of being killed by a TPI.
 
There's also the fact (which Iamunanimous keeps omitting every single time) that these people who were erased were later restored in the present, thus nullifying said TPI even if it was a single timeline.
 
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