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Ryu vs Jin Kazama- Death Battle Edition

@Rapid

The only one who's gonna end up being in trouble is you with how are you acting recently in other threads (adding this one too the list of course).

So please, drop this attitude of yours and thanks
 
I don't really think Death battle will do that mmm...(hopefully).. I mean they read the criticism, right? Oh well, just hoping Ryu wins for my reasoning, and I get why Jin wins now just by how Death battle will interprete it.

And, uh, I apologise for the "Are you serious?" Video.
 
I wasn't talking as much about what DB would do as much as how it would work according to the stats on this site. DB isn't quite as bad as people say, but the main priority is entertainment over actual comparisons.
 
Ben Singer said in one of their cast that they use non canon feats,cuz its the same character still and it shows the possibility of what someone is capable to do even tho in canon it didnt happened,they arent impossible and they will clearly do it,for goku they used even the movies and GT and superman had new 52 and post crisis used and so on

Anyway apologies accepted and i can agree on one thing and thats it,ryu wins ONLY on VS wiki vs jin cuz he is tiered higher then him and thats how their rules and standards are
 
Also for the no notable hax thing, his regen isn't really high enough to matter against a 7A, same for forcefields, I assume he doesn't use TK in a way that would instakill and Ryu has projectiles of his own anyways, lasers can be aimdodged considering Ryu has the speed advantage as is and they aren't so much a hax as a way of dealing damage, and flight isn't really relevant when your opponent can still just shoot you and is faster. Even if PON didn't win against Akuma, being comparable to him is still far above what Jin has demonstrated, and since Death Battle does use noncanon stuff they may use Evil Ryu. I have no idea what they'll actually do, considering its death battle, but that was the reasoning for my statement.
 
RapidMotorcycle19 said:
>Uses non canon content

If that was true Jotaro would have erased Ken
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They sometimes use non canon stuff, like Luigi vs Tails, they mentioned Paper Luigi defeated Dimentio and Tails saving the Multiverse in the Archie Series.
 
Wokistan said:
Also for the no notable hax thing, his regen isn't really high enough to matter against a 7A, same for forcefields, I assume he doesn't use TK in a way that would instakill and Ryu has projectiles of his own anyways, lasers can be aimdodged considering Ryu has the speed advantage as is and they aren't so much a hax as a way of dealing damage, and flight isn't really relevant when your opponent can still just shoot you and is faster. Even if PON didn't win against Akuma, being comparable to him is still far above what Jin has demonstrated, and since Death Battle does use noncanon stuff they may use Evil Ryu. I have no idea what they'll actually do, considering its death battle, but that was the reasoning for my statement.
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He uses telekinesis to choke opponents or explode stuff with it,like he did to a guy motorbike,making it blow up,you can aimdodge for so long,the speed difference is clear with the laser and his speed,so dont try to find excuses there,he aint dodging forever

Flight gives better control on the battlefield and he has better speed then ryu actually,he scales to gun jack that reacted to a satellite beam which is MHS,there are 4 new models at this point of jack,all made to be above the last one,jin is above all,not to mention the laser got dodged by other characters from which jin scales too,better reaction in base and the other forms

Akuma said if there was anybody that could match him and sounded disappointed after he beat ryu,that doesnt tell me pon ryu is comparable to akuma at all,it tells me even an all out pon ryu is no match or equal at all to him,ryu never was in the whole series to his level

Yah they will use evil ryu in death battle and so they will other non canon stuff in which jin has him bested at
 
He doesn't need to dodge forever when he 1 shots and is physically a lot faster. Sure the laser travels at SOL, but Jin can't aim that fast. If his TK works like that, according to its AP its not going to work on Ryu due to his vastly higher durability. If you want his speed to be better, make a CRT about it, because as of now that's not what's accepted. PoN beat a Bison who was stronger than Akuma, and is superior to Evil Ryu who's comparable to base akima. Ryu's got a huge AP/Dura advantage that Jin's just not getting around.
 
RapidMotorcycle19 said:
>Uses non canon content

If that was true Jotaro would have erased Ken
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Ben said in one of the cast and in their episode that over heaven its contradicting events from part 4 to part 6 and its a separate timeline and you clearly dont pay attention,cuz death battle used non canon stuff before,like for goku using the movies and GT
 
That's what non canon means though. EoH contradicting stuff is why its noncannon, and GT Goku was what was explicitly being used. Note that that episode was also the source of the infamous infinitely strong superman, so not the best example.
 
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jin and several others should be Sub Rel for dodging those Devil Lasers.

But eh
 
Bison isnt above akuma either,only with the black moon amp maybe,pon didnt beat that amped bison and evil ryu never faced akuma,only in non canon,from there he gets the scaling from him

Since when telekinesis is tied with AP?Ryu aint surviving getting his neck crushed or cut of air and ryu aint gonna dodge the laser the first time jin uses it
 
His neck is too durable to crush. His neck isn't just arbitrarily not high 7A. The laser is also below his dura, and if Jin has to motion or whatever to do it Ryu's got enough knowledge with motions causing ranged attacks to aimdodge. If you've got an issue with the way the profiles scale, make a CRT about it. Also, please use your spacebar, your stuff is very hard to read.
 
How works lifting strength
 
Tekken 7 Akuma is just as strong as devil kazuya, you could say Jin miiiiight get a bit of soul manip resistance, but that was against a very restricted and unimpressed base Akuma.
 
Evil Ryu went up against Shin Akuma and won. https://youtu.be/2_mYcQNr83U Though, in the GBA port of alpha 3, if you lost against Akuma, Akuma acknowledge that Ryu is the only fighter that put up a good fight. Though, I don't know if this version of alpha 3 is canon.
 
Unless youd argue SFV Akuma is stronger than his Shin Counterpart in SFA3, this seems to be weird.


Evil Ryu (SFA3) > Shin Akuma > Akuma > PoN Ryu.
 
Akuma in tekken 7 was out for the kill and said he waited all this time so the two he had to kill are on his level,in the special chapter he went shin akuma and lost to an exhausted super devil kazuya
 
And telekinesis isnt dependent on AP,another thing i know remembered jin has electricity manipulation,he can stun or electrocute ryu with it and his profile got no resistance to it
 
Akuma in tekken 7 =/= Street Fighter Akuma.

SF plot cannot coexist with Tekken´s, and thus, cannot give him the Island Level feat.

Not to mention that no one in tekken (canon) even comes close to Island Level anyways.
 
RapidMotorcycle19 said:
Akuma in tekken 7 =/= Street Fighter Akuma.

SF plot cannot coexist with Tekken´s, and thus, cannot give him the Island Level feat.

Not to mention that no one in tekken (canon) even comes close to Island Level anyways.
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Please stop assuming things which you cannot either,i never compared tekken akuma with street fighter akuma(which arent any different either),i talked about your lowball saying that it was a "very restricted and unimpressed akuma", his whole deal in the story proves you wrong,he had a task to kill two characters no matter what,he isnt gonna hold back to either of them

Neither Harada or Ono,the heads of both franchises,have said that akuma in tekken to be a different akuma then the one we know,it wasnt the main point in here anyway that i brought it up,as i said earlier why

And there are feats that can wield island level power for tekken in the canon for your info,but again,VS wiki didnt add them
 
Also very quick you are to go to an admin to which you didnt want to give the name of a user,yet you still did,you can unfollow a thread and wont receive notifications anymore if you didnt knew buddy

And im gonna unfollow this thread till death battle gives the preview for ryu,but before that im gonna tell you something as nice as i can

Prove it that ryu beats jin and going by the standards and rules of death battle,cuz this is what the thread is about,jin vs ryu death battle edition,screwattack wont follow or use the rules and standards of the VS wiki for their battle,meaning they will use any feat,canon or non canon from both of their franchises,in which ryu has no chance to win against jin

The only way ryu wins,is to break the long loss record their verse has on the show since 2012 and win the sf fans back as they are called biased by them,thats the only reason,as they did with batman in batman vs cap america

If you cant prove it to those standards,then please dont reply back,thats all im saying
 
RapidMotorcycle19 said:
Evil Ryu (SFA3) > Shin Akuma > Akuma > PoN Ryu.
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Nah, Evil Ryu beating Shin Akuma was PIS and inconsistency, just like most of Alpha 3 fights. He's supposed to be on par with Base Akuma while fully consumed like in SFIV, and even then Akuma has got way more powerful by SFV.
 
RapidMotorcycle19 said:
Just chill, accept your wrongdoings and just try to fix your behaviour for next time.
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Are you for real?How ironic coming from you,i remember Leo in the ither thread about jin vs ryu and this one by somebody several comments behind that your behaviour in threads is needed to be fixed,mine is fine unlike yours

Wrong doings?funny,cuz what i said by far wasnt wrong,unlike your predictions of Ryu winning based on tiers from this wiki which obiously Death Battle wont even look at or use

You threatened me with report to an admin cuz you cant prove your side here and the same to Leo in the other thread,yet im the one who needs to chill?
 
Im waiting on Jin preview now,nothing new on Ryu preview besides the parry being mentioned and better backstory explanation then last time
 
Personally, I think neither VS Battles Wiki nor LeopoldTheBrave is correct on SF vs. Tekken. The former lowballs Tekken, the latter highballs it. If Tekken had really been that powerful in comparison to SF or vice versa, Harada and Ono wouldn't even have bothered making such a crossover in Tekken 7, but they clearly respect each other's universes, like they are even. So in this case, BlackDarkness is correct. Imagine Harada being like "Well, my Jack robots could one shot everyone from SF, so make sure to upgrade Akuma so he could stand up to the Mishimas", or Ono being like "My Akuma is way too powerful for Tekken, so don't forget to downgrade him (although Akuma went Shin just to take on True Devil Kazuya)".

It's not just for hype, it can't be a coincidence that they put Akuma, SF's top-tier, against Tekken's Mishimas, it was clearly to show how powerful the Mishimas are. Of course I might be banned for disagreeing with the Wiki, but this is just how I see it as a long-time fighting games fan. I had to make my own VS profiles for SF chars on G+, and will most likely do the same with Tekken ones.
 
That's definitely not a ban worthy statement. If you want to change stats, feel free to make a CRT. You may be right, I don't really know. You'll just have to prove it to this wiki's knowledgeable members.
 
Oh boy,they had some stuff wrong there

1)Kazuya didnt abandon them,he died after Heihachi threw in a volcano,before Jin was born and Jun wasnt even pregnant at the time maybe

2)Jin thought his mother died by Ogre hand,so he entered to kill him,plus Ogre cant speak english,so how he can interogate him?not like Jin was going to anyway as he was out to murder him

3)he knows 3 fighting styles, not 2,he learned karate too in tekken 4,also they speak about ten hit combos but not his fighting styles moves?
 
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