Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Antvasima]

We should preferably wait for more staff input. I at least almost always try to restrain myself from making unilateral authoritarian decisions, except when I am very mentally overexerted and stressed out.

 

[KingTempest]

I can guarantee you most staff would agree with a ban

Honestly with his history it should be longer. It's getting annoying

 

[ByAsura]

It is annoying, but he's purportedly leaving after the revisions anyway.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Wouldn't a few months to half a year be better?

We originally gave him a thread ban because he was stonewalling and stuff, right?

If so, I see virtually no changes on his behavior, and honestly just a full on ban for half a year is better.

 

[Antvasima]

I can guarantee you most staff would agree with a ban

Honestly with his history it should be longer. It's getting annoying

How about for 3 months then? He seems to relentlessly unreasonably argue about and stonewall almost any thread that he touches, and also genuinely needs a long break to focus on recovering from his severe physical and mental trauma.

 

[KingTempest]

It is annoying, but he's purportedly leaving after the revisions anyway.

He's been saying that for months. The "nonexistent" revisions he's waiting for is just his way of making his "it's my world you're just living in it" threats

How about for 3 months then? He seems to relentlessly unreasonably argue about and stonewall almost any thread that he touches, and also genuinely needs a long break to focus on recovering from his severe physical and mental trauma.

Yes

 

[ByAsura]

The revisions are actually out at the moment, but I see your point.

 

[Antvasima]

What do other staff members here think? We would appreciate your input.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with ByAsura here.

 

[Propellus]

I think it's best for him to have a long time off the site to heal his current physical/mental trauma. I guess a ban is necessary for this case.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the replies.

So are 3 months a reasonable ban time to apply for him?

 

[Dereck03]

I honestly don't like drama and don't get involved in it but I'll give my opinion. I agree with ByAsura, mainly the way Speedster keeps apologizing for everything he does but in the end he doesn't come to his senses, it's just a loop, also the drama of "after I finish this or that I'll leave the wiki" or similar, if he had an accident and every now and then he brings it up every time someone points out something against him, it seems more like he uses it as a shield, but that's enough.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I don't think that he means any harm, just that he is genuinely unable to control his behaviour and continues compulsively, but it still needs to be dealt with.

 

[ByAsura]

So that's 5 staff (excluding myself and potentially Damage). Is that enough input?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes.

 

[ByAsura]

Ok, I've banned speed.

@speedster352 If it's any consolation, I was genuinely advocating for a much shorter ban so you didn't miss the revisions.

 

[Damage3245]

For what it is worth, I would have agreed with a 3 month ban too but couldn't give input until now.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Just a heads up, on the approval queue, @speedster352 attempted making an an alt account to get around his ban.

 

[Propellus]

You know what, make it even longer

 

[Damage3245]

That's extremely unfortunate.

 

[KingTempest]

Yeah... please extend that

 

[Antvasima]

Just a heads up, on the approval queue, @speedster352 attempted making an an alt account to get around his ban.

That is correct, yes.

https://vsbattles.com/members/koolboy.26481/

 

[Antvasima]

I think we can begin by extending his ban to somewhere between 4 and 6 months instead, given the brain damage and compulsive behaviour issues.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Agreed, that sounds right. Though, the Koolboy alt gets a permanent ban due to being an alt

 

[Propellus]

At this point, people try so hard to be fair with speedster and later on he keeps screwing them up everytime.

 

[Antvasima]

Again, he has brain damage and is blatantly not able to control his self-destructive compulsive behaviours.

 

[Damage3245]

That isn't his fault but it is his responsibility to deal with it. If it ends up with him breaking the rules, then we've got no choice but to ban him.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but I don't think that we should be overly harsh in this regard. He is legitimately compulsively obsessive, and not in his right mind.

 

[Propellus]

It just gets too tiresome overtime constantly dealing with this, sometimes speedster has to handle his own problems for himself, we're not always his responsibility.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but I consider it the responsibility of any humane society to try to take care of its most vulnerable members, so again, don't be too harsh on him please.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, for how long should his extended block be?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Couldn't he have made an alt to explain himself or something?

Even tho I personally don't see what he could do to explain himself

 

[Antvasima]

That is possible, yes. He likely just wanted to speak for himself, and didn't think of using one of our message walls in other wikis.

 

[Damage3245]

Extend it by 1 to 3 months. I don't think we need to escalate it further than that unless he does something else.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

I feel sorry for speedster352, given that he literally suffers from brain damage, but I have repeatedly tried to reason with him in the past, and he remains unable to control his behaviour here, which is both destructive for himself and for the members that he interacts with, so I suppose that we have a similar situation to the one with HammerStrikes219 some years ago, when I had to eventually ban him for constantly derailing discussions with lots of nonsense due to his severe mental illness, despite that he did not mean any harm, and first let him return after he had greatly recovered a few years afterwards.

In all fairness, that also end up resulting to being a perm ban (That I did happen to request in our Fanfiction DMs before the situation) in regards to my case.


Anyway, since the topic regarding Speedster’s case is resolved, I will stop commenting.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Agreed, a middle ground approach seems appropriate. It isn't his fault, but at the same time; it's the best practice if it gets too out of control for us to be handling on a regular basis. So what Damage is proposing just seems like the best action. We can't just do nothing, though a permanent ban is obviously far too harsh. Adding a few months to the already accepted ban is reasonable. If he does it further, even longer.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, would you be willing to extend his ban to 4 or 5 months instead please?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I extended it to 5 months

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.