Revolution Princess vs Gamer

[XxZetsuxX]

Hongou Hina vs Dowan Ha (Beginning of Season 2)

Rules:

• Speed is equalised.
• Starting Distance: 10 meters
• Location: Valkyria's Arena
• No one has prep time
• Both have no prior knowledge
• Both do not have their optional equipment
• Dowan Ha AP: 77 MJ (upscales (i assume))
• Hina AP: 101 MJ (upscales gigantically), Upscales massively 202 MJ with her Rikudou: Sunder Heaven

	Hina's advantages: Higher Stamina Higher AP More Skilled More Experienced Better info analysis Better ANPR (can predict blitz worthy attacks and 20 attacks in advance) Speed Blitz worthy amp Possible One shot via Dura neg Better BIQ Better IQ Better techniques	Deadliest School Girl of Japan -
	Dowan Ha's advantages: Higher LS Better Haxes Speed Blitz worthy attacks More techniques Acrobatics Supernatural willpower Critical hits Rage power	Substitute Gamer -

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Just gonna throw it out there

National champions level are complete fodders to the main cast, The slaughter colosseum was stated to have better fighters (leagues above even), Hina defeats almost effortlessly Yuzuha Lee who is the champion of said place, Hina also won against Rei who is also leagues above Yuzuha Lee due to doing the same training regime as Hina technically (she diverted at some point but still), Rei is currently at 9th place of the star children which is last place and Hina is placed at 4th place which shows even more the disparity of their skill

Not only that, Karura who was stated to reign as champion in the kengan asura matches if there was a women division called Hina a monster, same karura who is stated to be the pinnacle product of a generations long Super Breeding Program by a ancient clan of contract killers

Skill wise, i believe Hina fodderizes Dowan no diff (low diff max)

 

[Pedonar]

1. Fear Manipulation should not work since he resists it. Additionally, in Reality Quest, Fear Manipulation is supernatural and works through an aura, as it not only induces fear but also disrupts electricity.

2. Some of Dowan Ha’s abilities are guaranteed hits, such as Blind Spot Strike.

Keep in mind that these attacks don’t passively deal higher damage when hitting a blind spot. Instead, they are activation based skills that allow the system to guide his attack to the nearest blind spot with high speed. The same applies to other skills like Falcon Drop and Stun Smash.

The only way to dodge Blind Spot Strike or similar techniques is if the opponent moves faster than Dowan.

So yeah, maybe Hina is more skilled, but Dowan has cheat skills that allow him to close the gap easily.

3. There’s no way for Hina to speed blitz, since Dowan has Boosters, a skill that increases his speed and enhances his perception/reaction time, allowing him to see opponents in slower speed. On top of that, most of his skills further increase his speed, and his Transcendental Skill is even faster than Boosters.

4. The LS difference is massive 310x. So once he gets a hold of her, what’s stopping Dowan from incapacitating her, breaking her bones, or something similar?

5. Rage Power allowed Dowan to defeat a character even when the system stated that the power gap was huge. Not only that, but during the fight, he was also suffering from the aftereffects of Black Lock, which completely paralyzed his body.

 

[DeltaStriker22]

Can Hina counter Dowan's Boosters?
When Dowan activates Boosters his speed will become 2519+++ m/s for 30 seconds.
According to Hina's profile her speed at best is 68.8 m/s, that means Dowan will have a 36.61+++x speed advantage for 30 seconds.
What's stopping Downa from beating her into a bloodless corpse like he did to XXX?

Also, since attack speed isn't equalised Falcon Revolve will always be 2519 m/s (36.61x faster), Hina has no way to react to it and Dowan has nothing stopping him from spamming the move (unless he runs out of mana).

 

[DeltaStriker22]

1. Fear Manipulation should not work since he resists it. Additionally, in Reality Quest, Fear Manipulation is supernatural and works through an aura, as it not only induces fear but also disrupts electricity.

I agree with this.
Hina's fear inducement comes from SI.
Reality Quest characters are capable of resisting actual supernatural fear hax, her fear manip won't work on Dowan.
It's more likely that Dowan's Fear hax will have an effect on Hina instead.

How likely are the both their chances to get their hands on weapons of any kind?

 

[Pedonar]

Can Hina counter Dowan's Boosters?
When Dowan activates Boosters his speed will become 2519+++ m/s for 30 seconds.
According to Hina's profile her speed at best is 68.8 m/s, that means Dowan will have a 36.61+++x speed advantage for 30 seconds.
What's stopping Downa from beating her into a bloodless corpse like he did to XXX?

Also, since attack speed isn't equalised Falcon Revolve will always be 2519 m/s (36.61x faster), Hina has no way to react to it and Dowan has nothing stopping him from spamming the move (unless he runs out of mana).

Speed is equal

 

[DeltaStriker22]

Speed is equal

Isn't attack speed not effected by equalisation or am I mistaken?

Like if Goku and idk, Batman were fighting with speed equalisation, only goku's combat speed will get reduced to Batman's level.
The speed of his attacks like the Kamehameha would still be FTL.

If I didn't understand that wrong, the same logic should apply to Dowan's Active Skills.

 

[Pedonar]

Isn't attack speed not effected by equalisation or am I mistaken?

Like if Goku and idk, Batman were fighting with speed equalisation, only goku's combat speed will get reduced to Batman's level.
The speed of his attacks like the Kamehameha would still be FTL.

If I didn't understand that wrong, the same logic should apply to Dowan's Active Skills.

Not sure about this

 

[LaserPrecision]

1. Goku's Kamehameha from what I'm aware of is scaled to his combat speed. Not independently
2. Yes, attack speed in a way "isn't" equalized. It's reduced by the same margin as the combat speed, but the gap between their combat speed and attack speed remains constant. I.e. if someone has 150 m/s combat speed, but 1,000,000 m/s attack speed, and they're fighting an opponent with 1 m/s combat speed, it'd get reduced as so; 1,000,000/150 = 6666.66666667x. 1x6666.66666667 = 6,666.66666667 m/s Attack Speed with 1 m/s Combat Speed.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Boosters and Falcon Revolve can get countered as Hina can predict speed blitz worthy attacks and even 20 moves in advance

Not only that, even with blitz worthy attacks, she can still attack Dowan's joints with "pin point" precision rendering his arm (or hand) useless in a fight

As far as i can tell, Hina with her ANPR and skill should easily be able to have a somewhat easy time dealing with said speed amps

As for LS, Hina is not a fighter who let's herself get grabbed so Dowan will have a super hard time grabbing her even more when we factor in the skill chain

And btw, like i said in the op, Dowan might get one shotted the moment she pulls Sunder Heaven as it is a move that technically sends a shockwave through your brain

She might use it when Dowan finishes his boosters given how he is temporarely outscaling her in speed

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I would like to mention that Hina is more than willing to go for pressure points

Groin which will stun Dowan for several seconds due to pain, Solar plexus which will do the same and even cause him breathing problems etc which gives Hina more than time to pummel him

Or even go for the chin which is insta K.O too

I would like to mention that Hina has also used her damage reduction skill on a blitz worthy skills like Rei

1st time was Rei using Rikudou: Army Breaker Dawn (which was already blitzing her)

2nd time was Rei using Rikudou: Army Breaker Supreme Dawn which fodderizes the previous one and Hina still managed to use damage reduction easily

Hina is also a somewhat agressive fighter, she won't stand idly as Dowan charges his charge shot

 

[XxZetsuxX]

. Rage Power allowed Dowan to defeat a character even when the system stated that the power gap was huge. Not only that, but during the fight, he was also suffering from the aftereffects of Black Lock, which completely paralyzed his body.

I would like to clarify that these people who were stated to be above Dowan were nowhere near skill wise Hina and also did not have the same level of ANPR as she does

He can close the gap stats wise (mabye) but hitting Hina is a whole another story

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I agree with this.
Hina's fear inducement comes from SI.
Reality Quest characters are capable of resisting actual supernatural fear hax, her fear manip won't work on Dowan.
It's more likely that Dowan's Fear hax will have an effect on Hina instead.

Dowan doesn't have fear hax in his beginning of season 2 key which is why i picked him ;-;

How likely are the both their chances to get their hands on weapons of any kind?

None, Valkyria arena is purely H2H

 

[XxZetsuxX]

1. Goku's Kamehameha from what I'm aware of is scaled to his combat speed. Not independently
2. Yes, attack speed in a way "isn't" equalized. It's reduced by the same margin as the combat speed, but the gap between their combat speed and attack speed remains constant. I.e. if someone has 150 m/s combat speed, but 1,000,000 m/s attack speed, and they're fighting an opponent with 1 m/s combat speed, it'd get reduced as so; 1,000,000/150 = 6666.66666667x. 1x6666.66666667 = 6,666.66666667 m/s Attack Speed with 1 m/s Combat Speed.

So, if i got this correct, Charge shot should be somewhere around this?

Hina is baseline sub, so 34,4 divided by 2519 = 73 m/s?

 

[Pedonar]

1. Goku's Kamehameha from what I'm aware of is scaled to his combat speed. Not independently
2. Yes, attack speed in a way "isn't" equalized. It's reduced by the same margin as the combat speed, but the gap between their combat speed and attack speed remains constant. I.e. if someone has 150 m/s combat speed, but 1,000,000 m/s attack speed, and they're fighting an opponent with 1 m/s combat speed, it'd get reduced as so; 1,000,000/150 = 6666.66666667x. 1x6666.66666667 = 6,666.66666667 m/s Attack Speed with 1 m/s Combat Speed.

by using this, the difference will be x8

Boosters and Falcon Revolve can get countered as Hina can predict speed blitz worthy attacks and even 20 moves in advance

Not only that, even with blitz worthy attacks, she can still attack Dowan's joints with "pin point" precision rendering his arm (or hand) useless in a fight

As far as i can tell, Hina with her ANPR and skill should easily be able to have a somewhat easy time dealing with said speed amps

As for LS, Hina is not a fighter who let's herself get grabbed so Dowan will have a super hard time grabbing her even more when we factor in the skill chain

Boosters allow him to increase his speed and perception, meaning he can easily counter her attacks.

And btw, like i said in the op, Dowan might get one shotted the moment she pulls Sunder Heaven as it is a move that technically sends a shockwave through your brain

She might use it when Dowan finishes his boosters given how he is temporarely outscaling her in speed

I’m not sure if it’s the same thing, but Dowan was able to continue fighting even when his body was supposed to be unconscious or fully paralyzed.

I would like to mention that Hina is more than willing to go for pressure points

Groin which will stun Dowan for several seconds due to pain, Solar plexus which will do the same and even cause him breathing problems etc which gives Hina more than time to pummel him

This can be resisted through rage, willpower, and pain tolerance.

Or even go for the chin which is insta K.O too

I would like to mention that Hina has also used her damage reduction skill on a blitz worthy skills like Rei

It's useless since all he needs to do is incapacitate her. Once he gets a hold of her, the fight ends due to the LS difference, and there's no way Dowan won’t have a single chance to get near her, especially with Boosters.

1st time was Rei using Rikudou: Army Breaking Dawn (which was already blitzing her)

2nd time was Rei using Rikudou: Army Breaking Supreme Dawn which fodderizes the previous one and Hina still managed to use damage reduction easily

Hina is also a somewhat agressive fighter, she won't stand idly as Dowan charges his charge shot

Dowan doesn't have fear hax in his beginning of season 2 key which is why i picked him ;-;

He will get it in the next crt

 

[DeltaStriker22]

Dowan doesn't have fear hax in his beginning of season 2 key which is why i picked him ;-;

He's had SI based fear inducement since the post-training key.

I would like to mention that Hina is more than willing to go for pressure points

Groin which will stun Dowan for several seconds due to pain, Solar plexus which will do the same and even cause him breathing problems etc which gives Hina more than time to pummel him

Or even go for the chin which is insta K.O too

When Dowan’s HP gets low enough The System, an entity FAR above humanity forcibly (using magic basically) paralyses his body and shuts down his consciousness to knock him out. If he can resist the actions of this higher entity and keep fighting through his willpower and rage, groin shots and hitting the chin won't be enough to put him down.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

by using this, the difference will be x8

She can predict blitz worthy attacks soooo... it wouldn't matter if he was still hyper or not ngl

Boosters allow him to increase his speed and perception, meaning he can easily counter her attacks.

She may not be able to hit him but he cannot either since she has cracked ANPR

I’m not sure if it’s the same thing, but Dowan was able to continue fighting even when his body was supposed to be unconscious or fully paralyzed.

It is not, unless you can show me he survived getting a hit on his brain with a shockwave (kinda)

This can be resisted through rage, willpower, and pain tolerance.

Mhm

It's useless since all he needs to do is incapacitate her. Once he gets a hold of her, the fight ends due to the LS difference, and there's no way Dowan won’t have a single chance to get near her, especially with Boosters.

You need to remember several factors for him to be able to touch her, which they are;

ANPR (once again 20 attacks in advance and also blitz worthy) + Skill gap (she no diffs) + Damage reduction (works on blitzes too)

Also iirc, Dowan doesn't start with those, he rarely goes for grabs

He will get it in the next crt

Then what's the point of this match :/

If Dowan gets fear hax then it's basically fear hax gg

Might as well forget this

 

[DeltaStriker22]

Boosters and Falcon Revolve can get countered as Hina can predict speed blitz worthy attacks and even 20 moves in advance

Not only that, even with blitz worthy attacks, she can still attack Dowan's joints with "pin point" precision rendering his arm (or hand) useless in a fight

As far as i can tell, Hina with her ANPR and skill should easily be able to have a somewhat easy time dealing with said speed amps

Dowan also has multi-layered ANPR:
Pre-Training Dowan < Post-Training Dowan <<< Auto Mode (The System's combat genius AI) < S2 Dowan

With his ANPR stacked on top of his Perception and Speed amp via boosters should able to overcome Hina's better ANPR.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

His anpr still falls short of what Hina can do, foresight in kengan verse is seeing after images of moves about whats to come, Hina does it up to 20 moves in advance and predict speed blitzes, she stomps in anpr as well

 

[XxZetsuxX]

How long can he last in a fight stamina wise? 30 minutes or so? Or more?