Revision of Misaka Mikoto

[TeenAngel101]

For a long while, Misaka has been rated as being Low 4-C at 100% of her limit.

However, she is only 2 Gigatons at 2% of her limit. If she increases in power like this, then her true limit would be 100 Gigatons or Large Island level.

The only reasoning we have for her Low 4-C rating is a statement from this scientist claiming she would become like a White Dwarf or a Supernova. And this picture of an explosion.


However, the only thing this picture shows is an explosion against a black background, with no indication of the actual size of the explosion.

In addition, he then only says that said explosion would destroy the city. Now, if he said something like, destroy the planet, it might be legit. However, he says:


That the explosion would wipe the city off the map. Implying that the destruction would only be limited to the city. He also says she MAY become like this, but he doesn't know for sure what the result would be. So not only would this be hyperbole, he also has no clue what will actually happen when she reaches her limit, and says he only knows for sure that the CITY ALONE would be wiped off the map.

As such, her 100% of her limit should be changed from Low 4-C to High 6-C, since she is 2 Gigatons at 2% of her limit, she should logically be around 100 Gigatons at 100%.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Why'd you bump less than a half hour later?

 

[TeenAngel101]

I was trying to make sure people saw this, since this seems like one of those threads that never gets feedback because it's an unpopular character.

 

[Elione-Arisu]

You should bump a thread after at least 10 hours

 

[TeenAngel101]

Okay, sorry.

I only bumped it once to make sure it got someone's attention.

 

[DontTalkDT]

OK, for one thing you can not apply linear scaling here. The precentage is in regards to how far from level 6 she is. That power growth could be exponential or less than linear.

In this case things point towards it being exponential.


That statements here are also really not hyperbole. This is his scientific opinion. The scenarios he describes are too specific to be a hyperbole.

The city statement only means that in any case the city will be wiped out, it doesn't state that nothing beyond the city is wiped out. It's just the the city is what is the relevant part.


That said you have a point that he says it "may" be what happens. So it should be "possibly" the current stats.

 

[LazyHunter]

Disagree with the linear scaling, as DontTalk said we don't know how it scales and the power growth could perfectly be exponential.

The statement is a bit flimsy, though. The exact wording used in the statement is the following: "She may shrivel up into an incomplete state like a dwarf star or she may pierce through and open the gate to a new world like a supernova."

I believe is likely that Gensei was just using "like a dwarf star" and "like a supernova" to illustrate his example/point of what is going to happen to Mikoto; either shrivel up incomplete and take the city with her or destroy it with a big boom.

What do others think?

 

[TeenAngel101]

Perhaps we should get rid of the Low 4-C rating and just rate her as much higher at 100% of her limit.

 

[TeenAngel101]

I mean, with what Lazy said, plus, nearly all of Misaka's powers rate at Tier 8-7 with one Tier 6 feat via outside help.

Her 2% is Small Island level, yet somehow her 100% is Low 4-C via a super flimsy statement from a guy who was probably just using the terms as an example.

If he said shrivel incomplete or open the gate "something else", like "nuke", this would make no difference.

 

[Malox1696]

Disagree with the linear scaling, as DontTalk said we don't know how it scales and the power growth could perfectly be exponential.
The statement is a bit flimsy, though. The exact wording used in the statement is the following: "She may shrivel up into an incomplete state like a dwarf star or she may pierce through and open the gate to a new world like a supernova."

I believe is likely that Gensei was just using "dwarf star" and "supernova" to illustrate his example of what is going to happen to Mikoto; either shrivel up incomplete and take the city with her or destroy it with a big boom.

What do others think?

this seems more plausible, still a complete lvl 6 should have full control of their personal reality and similar to magic gods be able to change the universe although only accel/kankine should have complete control on the universe thanks to the nature of their power misaka could hypothetically control all electron in the universe but this is just a theory as we still have to see a full lvl 6

 

[TeenAngel101]

But the guy then also states that she couldn't control her 100% percent, and would immediately explode due to not being able to handle her power.

 

[Malox1696]

But the guy then also states that she couldn't control her 100% percent, and would immediately explode due to not being able to handle her power.

yes she cant

 

[LazyHunter]

There's not really much of a point thinking about what kind of power she would be able to theoretically wield at 100% because that's also the moment she dies.

 

[TeenAngel101]

The only power she shown to actually be able to wield is her High 7-A feat at 2%.

 

[DontTalkDT]

@LazyHunter: Makes sense to me.

 

[The_Everlasting]

The usage of "like" to me makes it clear it's just a simile and not meant to be taken literally.

It's like people say "it's like 1,000 degrees right now" when it's really hot out. Clearly not literal.

 

[TeenAngel101]

So the new statistics for her transformations that I am proposing is:

At least High 7-A, likely much higher at 100% of her limit (Would continue to grow in power, and was stated to be able to wipe Academy City off the map, put would instantly implode upon reaching 100%, due to her body not being able to handle it)

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Disagree with the linear scaling, as DontTalk said we don't know how it scales and the power growth could perfectly be exponential.
The statement is a bit flimsy, though. The exact wording used in the statement is the following: "She may shrivel up into an incomplete state like a dwarf star or she may pierce through and open the gate to a new world like a supernova."

I believe is likely that Gensei was just using "like a dwarf star" and "like a supernova" to illustrate his example/point of what is going to happen to Mikoto; either shrivel up incomplete and take the city with her or destroy it with a big boom.

What do others think?

We need to get rid of the Low 4-C statement. A character being stated to be capable of "Flare up like a Supernova" doesn't mean they are equal to an actual Supernova.

Johnny Storm, the Human Torch, has an ability called Supernova which is repeatedly compared to one, but not because it is the power of a supernova, but because it is similar (I.e, he explodes in a flare of energy and heat).

Starfire is another character who can "Go Nova", but that doesn't make her High 4-C.

 

[TeenAngel101]

The feat is likely be an outlier anyway, since she is only High 7-A at 2% and her 100% is somehow Low 4-C.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The downgrade can be performed, then.

 

[TeenAngel101]

Changes have been applied, this can be closed now.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Alright.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Besides, we all know Misaka Mikoto's best ability is her duplication:


I am legion for we are many.