Revenge Death Ball Return

[Chariot190]

This is the same attack that proceeded to affect Kibito Kai and Goku through the subspace and in the midst of instantaneous teleportation by the way, but apparently people find verbatim stated atomic manipulation too farfetched for it.

Non-sequitur?
Point A has zero relation with Point B.
We know Ki attacks can **** with space time since buu saga anyway.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This is the same attack that proceeded to affect Kibito Kai and Goku through the subspace and in the midst of instantaneous teleportation by the way, but apparently people find verbatim stated atomic manipulation too farfetched for it.

Because Matter Manipulation and Space-Time Manipulation are related, right?
Besides, what affected Kibito Kai and Goku was the shock waves, not the Revenge Death Ball itself.

 

[Chariot190]

Because Matter Manipulation and Space-Time Manipulation are related

Damn they are? My b, agreed fra

 

[Huesito88]

Because Matter Manipulation and Space-Time Manipulation are related, right?
Besides, what affected Kibito Kai and Goku was the shock waves, not the Revenge Death Ball itself.

Well if we're talking about Quantum Foam then well =P

 

[DivineAura44]

This dialogue, no... this entire scene—Baby's character, Vegeta's character, Baby's overwhelming hatred towards the Saiyans, his feeling of superiority at the newfound height of his power and his achievements, his language—points towards the threat being non-literal.

Notice how none of this is key argument I made which was that correcting yourself, doesn't necessarily make something non-literal?
Am I to take this rebuttal you posted as non-literal because you do the exact thing that you yourself pointed out (correcting oneself)?
Having hatred and a superiority complex can take away from the statement but doesn't mean it's automatically non-literal.
Edit:

 

[Nullflowerblush]

 

[DivineAura44]

Anyways I disagree with the "denial of resurrection thing". The Spirit Bomb in the Buu Saga was able to kill Buu who could regenerate from vapor. Is the more logical interpretation not that he meant the Revenge Death Ball would disallow any form of regeneration? (obviously limited to Mid-High)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

We've managed to circle back to Spirit Bomb being Resurrection Negation. 2022 Vs Battles is back.

 

[DivineAura44]

We've managed to circle back to Spirit Bomb being Resurrection Negation. 2022 Vs Battles is back.

Nobody mentioned anything about Spirit Bomb having Resurrection Negation in this thread?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The Spirit Bomb in the Buu Saga was able to kill Buu who could regenerate from vapor. Is the more logical interpretation not that he meant the Revenge Death Ball would disallow any form of regeneration? (obviously limited to Mid-High)

 

[DivineAura44]

Huh neat, didn't know Regeneration = Resurrection! Also don't recall saying Spirit Bomb should regain the ability but what do ya know.

 

[Chariot190]

but what do ya know.

Everything.

 

[AwkguyDB]

I agree with the OP FRA

 

[Quantu]

I've actually changed my mind on this; I don't think Baby is talking about the Death Ball having some esoteric atomic manipulation ability, but rather that he will just destroy him on that level through its overwhelming power/AP tbh.

So disagree.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't know if this topic is still valid, but it is said once again in Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 4

"Molecule by molecule-no! Atom by atom, i will tear you apart and scatter your remains to the stars!"

At the exact moment of 56 seconds of the trailer

 

[SeijiSetto]

it doesn't really look like you refuted the point of it just being AP tbh
i'm not really involved, just lurking (and my vote doesn't hold any more weight than a blue name) but i don't see why this needs to be matter manip as opposed to just very thorough destruction