Resident Evil Remakes Canonicity

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Capcom Words

In a report via PCGamesN, Capcom has said that the upcoming Resident Evil 2 will not be a lazy remake or remaster. It will, in a sense, be a re-imagining of the game as a whole.

Capcom has always made it clear that the game will not have the HD, Remaster or Remake title attached to it. As such, they want to make fans aware that while the game will be based on the original, it isn’t going to be a lazy ‘shot-for-shot’ remake. They plan to tell the same story but in a massively different way.

Some Differences Between the Original vs. Remakes

Very Important Note:s

• Not all the contradictions between the Remakes and Original games are going to be mentioned in this thread.
• All these differences, among many others, don't happen in Remakes.

Resident Evil 2 Remake Contradictions With The Original Game

Some contradictions are:

1. Among the differences are the characterization of characters, backstories changed, even whole events, etc.
2. In the remake Sherry is free of the G-virus, but in the Original Timeline she was never free of the G-virus; this is a contradiction with RE6. It is Annette who states this fact looking at the monitor with the results of Sherry's exam.
3. Another minor example: The file Leon and Ada in RE6 describes the events from the original RE2.
4. Sherry tells Jake that Leon saved her; he indeed saved her because he was the one who took Sherry out of the lab and put her on the train. This didn't happen in the Reimagining; Leon only meets Sherry when she is already inside the train.
5. In RE6, when Ada is about to save Sherry and Jake, she sarcastically says, "I'm going to return the kindness your parents gave me." Of course, Annette almost killed her by shooting her, the scene in the Reimagining is quite different, as Ada doesn't fall from the platform due to getting shot by Annette, but the platform itself gets destroyed due to an earthquake. Also, William almost ripped her head off in the cable car and almost ripped her arm off in the train, which is a scene that doesn't exist in the Reimagining as Ada doesn't even meet William.

Resident Evil 3 Remake Contradictions With The Original Game

Some contradictions are:

• Brad was either killed by Nemesis or killed by zombies.
• Kendo was either killed when zombies crashed through his store window, or when he khs after shooting his daughter.

Resident Evil 4 Remake Contradictions With The Original Game

Some contradictions are:

• In the original game Leon gets saved by Ada but in the remake Leon gets saved by Luis.
• Krauser works for Wesker in the original game but in the remake he doesn't work for Wesker.
• In the original game Luis gets killed by Saddler, in the remake by Krauser.
• Ashley is coward in the original game but she is a badass in the remake.

Conclusions

Due to all the previous contradictions with the original timeline, the RE2, RE3 and RE4 Remakes ARE NOT CANON and doesn't fit the plot of the original RE games. There are a lot more details, but RE:2 has continuity problems; the events don't fit the continuity of the franchise, and so it's not canon. This is exactly what was said, especially by Pete the producer: it's a reimagining, and revisiting is the same as reimagining. RE:2 does the same as Silent Hill: Shattered Memories did.

Therefore, the profiles that are meant for the remakes should be kept separate from the original games.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am not against this but can you list the source or link where the RE remakes are No-canon cause they were stated to be from alternative universes, Apex?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

It was stated on some interviews RE2 remake Is a re-imagining only

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Here [[1]]

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

If the remakes are stated to take place in an alternate timeline, there could be different versions of some of those various characters if it's different enough.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I concur, the remakes are too different in so many regards, almost entirely new things in some cases.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

They aré definitely NOT the same timeline as the original games but also they are a re-interpretation (Stated by Capcom himself) of the canon events so we should go with Profiles for the main timeline characters.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to probably be fine.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

I have no issues regarding this.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am fine with the OP.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok Now we need to separate remakes from canon Profiles like Tyrant from RE2 and William Birkin

 

[KLOL506]

Not really sure if feats would get affected by this at all TBH. They'd still scale to the feats done in RE4 and later.

 

[Antvasima]

So have enough people accepted this?

 

[GojiBoyForever]

But they still are not the same.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

We are separating different versions of a character due to the different canon.

RE2 ramake is no canon to the main continuity

 

[Stefano4444]

Wait, does this apply to RE1 Remake and RE0 as well?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

RE0 is canon.

RE1 Remake should be affected.

 

[Stefano4444]

RE0 is canon.
RE1 Remake should be affected.

By what reason exactly?

RE0 and RE1 Remake are canon to each other, Bravo Team's pilot in RE0 appeared in the Remake (or better his corpse).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT1JB3uv0ms

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I know but RE1 Remake is not canon to the following entires in the saga at difference with the original RE which is the true canon fisrt part.

 

[Stefano4444]

I know but RE1 Remake is not canon to the following entires in the saga at difference with the original RE which is the true canon fisrt part.

So the feats of the Remake are to be considered invalid or put in a different key?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Either different key or profile

 

[Eva132]

I agree with this

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Also I have to clarify the remake feats are NOT INVALID, they can be used for their own keys or profiles.

 

[KLOL506]

I mean, that was obvious.

 

[Stefano4444]

Then i guess we would have to make different keys.

And about RE0, since the RE1 Remake is going to count as an alternative version then the same would be applied with the former, RE0 does had more plot/character similiarities with the Remake rather than the Original, especially if we are going to still consider the Umbrella Chronicles (or at least certain parts) as canon to the Remakes.

I mean, in the Original Rebecca in RE1 did say that she has take refuge to the Mansion right after the helicopter had landed, when in RE0 Bravo Team split in search of evidence.

 

[Antvasima]

Different keys may be a good idea.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

It makes sense also yes UC is canon to the remakes.

The problem Is the scaling chain For example Némesis from Original RE3 is Small Building level scaling from feats of the RE2 Remake

 

[Stefano4444]

It makes sense also yes UC is canon to the remakes.
The problem Is the scaling chain For example Némesis from Original RE3 is Small Building level scaling from feats of the RE2 Remake

Like it was say before, Nemesis and other characters will get a key for their Remake counterpart.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

We should start revising the Tyrants.

T-002
T-002 bashes through multiple feet of solid stone and concrete to reach the surface.




T-103
T-103 smashes through a building floor. minute 10:13


Resident Evil 2 Cutscenes 720P HD


T-Nemesis
Nemesis punches through the solid granite walls of a cathedral.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Willian Birki

Second form Birkin punches through the steel side of the train with his claw arm




Fifth form Birkin is fully able to pulls its mass, which is the size of a train cart.




Fifth form Birkin's tentacles rip through the train.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Some of these have been calced already iirc

 

[Jesterofgames]

Shouldnt OG speed be looked at first? Since the supersonic speed comes from the first REmake.


though I'm curious about dismissing that as non canon since I do believe nothing is contradicted and only Re2 make was stated to be a reimagining.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Some of these have been calced already iirc

Can you show me the calcs please?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The ones for Nemesis are on his page, I think

 

[KLOL506]

The feats don't really look any higher than the remake calcs IMHO

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Is cause they arent. In fact this will downgrade characters like Némesis to Wall level only.

 

[Antvasima]

So what should we do here?

 

[Sera_EX]

I agree. Remakes always supplant the originals unless they are directly stated to be separate continuities. This also applies to FFVII Remake. It makes less sense for RE than FF, but whatever, if that's what Capcom wants.

 

[KLOL506]

I agree. Remakes always supplant the originals unless they are directly stated to be separate continuities. This also applies to FFVII Remake. It makes less sense for RE than FF, but whatever, if that's what Capcom wants.

Which one are you agreeing with here doe

 

[Sera_EX]

The first part of the OP