Ren Amamiya (Joker) vs Doctor Fate (Classic)

[Prometeus1999]

Both at Low 2-C, in character, speed equalized, random encounter, victory by death

Ren Amamiya 9 (Thatsafloridathing, Niccokirby, Ionliosite, Solacis, RotofBots, ZephyrosOmega, Starter Pack, Schnee One, ArgosaxDespair), Doctor Fate (Classic) 0, Inconcluded 0



AP: Defeated casual baseline

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

I'm voting Joker, but from what I can see, Joker resists some of his hax but Fate still has some stuff that can definitely mess things up for Joker. Joker can deal damgage onto Dr. Fate with Tetrakarn and Makarakarn and reduce damage with Firm Stance. Joker can also just buff his stats, while reducing Dr. Fate's. Dr. Fate might have the edge because of how he can go intangible, unless Joker almighty attacks bypass intangibility. If Dr. Fate uses BFR, Joker has power nullification to counter that.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Joker FRA

 

[Prometeus1999]

I'm voting Joker, but from what I can see, Joker resists some of his hax but Fate still has some stuff that can definitely mess things up for Joker. Joker can deal damgage onto Dr. Fate with Tetrakarn and Makarakarn and reduce damage with Firm Stance. Joker can also just buff his stats, while reducing Dr. Fate's. Dr. Fate might have the edge because of how he can go intangible, unless Joker almighty attacks bypass intangibility. If Dr. Fate uses BFR, Joker has power nullification to counter that.

Done

 

[Ionliosite]

Joker FRA

 

[Solacis]

To add, Joker has Non-Physical Interaction, so Intangibility is useless.

Joker FRA.

 

[RotofBots]

Joker FRA

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Joker FRA

 

[Prometeus1999]

Bump

 

[Starter_Pack]

Phantom Thief FRA.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ren FRA

 

[Solacis]

Aaaand... grace

 

[ArgosaxDespair]

Joker stomps

 

[Prometeus1999]

Time to close this?

 

[Solacis]

Wait for grace to be over.

 

[DarkGrath]

Joker stomps

Elaborate?

 

[Solacis]

He doesn't though. Doctor Fate still has Blood Manipulation and Time Travel to potentially kill Joker with.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Classic Doctor Fate stomps, he is already far above the likes of Pre Crisis Superman who is already a 2-C himself. But then again, I did some few research and found that Joker is a 2-C, so I don't really know man who would win this.

 

[Starter_Pack]

>Says it's a stomp

>Immediately backtracks and says it's unclear

I'm getting mixed messages from this.

 

[Solacis]

Classic Doctor Fate stomps, he is already far above the likes of Pre Crisis Superman who is already a 2-C himself. But then again, I did some few research and found that Joker is a 2-C, so I don't really know man who would win this.

> OP says both at Low 2-C

> Somehow didn't know that Joker is Low 2-C

Lol

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Classic Doctor Fate stomps, he is already far above the likes of Pre Crisis Superman who is already a 2-C himself. But then again, I did some few research and found that Joker is a 2-C, so I don't really know man who would win this.

> OP says both at Low 2-C
> Somehow didn't know that Joker is Low 2-C

Lol

(One-shot Yaldabaoth, who merged the cognitive universe with the Metaverse. Killing Yaldabaoth caused the destruction of the Metaverse). If this isn't a 2-C feat of Ren, then I don't know what is.

 

[Solacis]

Yeah, you're really unfamiliar with Persona.

Yaldabaoth fused the Cognitive Universe (Collective Unconscious) with the Physical Universe. They're the same size, but are only reflections of each other, so it doesn't count as full-on 2-C, only Low 2-C.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Fate shouldn't even have a Low 2-C key anymore

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Bump, I think this can be added now