Reid Astrea vs Alus Reigin

[Dereck03]

In the last thread it was said that Alus won against Reinhard, but he was not given the position in the Non-Smurf thread due to the fact that we needed a match against Reid so here we are. It can be changed to Elise upon request, as both Alus and Elise share places with Reinhard and Reid.

Alus Reigin

Alus Reigin is the main protagonist of The Greatest Magicmaster’s Retirement Plan. He is the #1 Magicmaster in the world who decided to retire after spending 10 years in the military defeating Fiends. Tier: At least High 6-C, likely higher; far higher with <Gra Eater> Name: Alus Reigin Origin...

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Reid Astrea

Reid Astrea was the first generation Sword Saint and one of the key figures in the sealing of the Witch of Envy 400 years ago. He is famous throughout history as both a hero who saved the world, and as the greatest swordsman to have ever lived due to being the sole existence to have ever reached...

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Alus. Godsatoshi23

Reid.

 

[Godsatoshi23]

As I said in the previous thread, Alus win this.

 

[Dereck03]

As I said in the previous thread, Alus win this.

Trust me bro argument fr.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Alus may have resistance to concept hax, but Reid would simply bypass that by cutting the magic that gave him that resistance. ( If what @SatellaTheWoE implies is true)

 

[Dereck03]

Alus may have resistance to concept hax, but Reid would simply bypass that by cutting the magic that gave him that resistance. ( If what @SatellaTheWoE implies is true)

That wouldn't work since the magic resistance in verse is based on Info Type 2 and iirc, re:zero doesn't have info 2 interaction.

 

[Greatsage13th]

That wouldn't work since the magic resistance in verse is based on Info Type 2 and iirc, re:zero doesn't have info 2 interaction.

So information type 2 > conceptual manipulation type 2 in Alus' verse?

 

[Dereck03]

So information type 2 > conceptual manipulation type 2 in Alus' verse?

Kinda, the magic itself is what gives the ability to list the abilities, such as Cm 2. But the mana that is necessary for the magic to take effect is Info 2.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Alus may have resistance to concept hax, but Reid would simply bypass that by cutting the magic that gave him that resistance. ( If what @SatellaTheWoE implies is true)

While Satella is a good surporter, i have to say he is wrong about the series 85% of the time.
Said that, Reid can cut magic.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Guess Alus wins

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

While Satella is a good surporter, i have to say he is wrong about the series 85% of the time.

my accuracy isnt that low ffs

Said that, Reid can cut magic.

Why wouldn't Reid be able to cut magic though? HIs CM extends to everything in verse which also includes the black hole beatrice created


Although i say that i still think its debatable if Reid could defeat Alus though due to his resistance to CM type 2, and if what @Dereck03 said is true then Reid cant really do anything here

 

[Dereck03]

Why wouldn't Reid be able to cut magic though? HIs CM extends to everything in verse which also includes the black hole beatrice created

He isn't questioning that tho.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He isn't questioning that tho.

Apparently i read it wrong then
anyways, can Alus stop himself from being sliced to pieces then via space-time duraneg?

 

[Dereck03]

anyways, can Alus stop himself from being sliced to pieces then via space-time duraneg?

Not only alus can resist spatial manip but can frooze time via Cocytos, and also i don't see Resistance to Existence Erasure in Reid's profile, which is Alus first move with Gra Eater.

 

[Godsatoshi23]

Apparently i read it wrong then
anyways, can Alus stop himself from being sliced to pieces then via space-time duraneg?

There are many ways for him to do that, Alus's Spatial manipulation can also fix coordinates of his opponents, wouldn’t allow so much as a pebble to move. To undo it, all the information in the surrounding space would need to be altered, so Reid would need info type 2(which he don't have) or destroy information(which he can't do) surrounding him to even make a move also.

 

[Fezzih_007]

my accuracy isnt that low ffs

While Satella is a good surporter, i have to say he is wrong about the series 84% of the time.

fixed then.

 

[Dereck03]

There are many ways for him to do that, Alus's Spatial manipulation can also fix coordinates of his opponents, wouldn’t allow so much as a pebble to move. To undo it, all the information in the surrounding space would need to be altered, so Reid would need info type 2(which he don't have) or destroy information(which he can't do) surrounding him to even make a move also.

Yeah, this is a pretty nice argument, since with that Reid wouldn't be able to even move as he will be stucked in the same place for the entire match and alus can just erase him with Gra Eater or Temple Fall.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

fixed then.

Ah yes way better, thank you

Yeah, this is a pretty nice argument, since with that Reid wouldn't be able to even move as he will be stucked in the same place for the entire match and alus can just erase him with Gra Eater or Temple Fall.

yeah this is a stomp then

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ah yes way better, thank you

But for real, i would rate you like 75% in percentage of wrong actually

 

[Dereck03]

So Alus stomp then?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

But for real, i would rate you like 75% in percentage of wrong actually

My inaccuracy rate isnt that high, i would say more like i am correct 95% of the time with minor extrapolations 25% of the time

 

[Fezzih_007]

So Alus stomp then?

Yep

 

[Dereck03]

Okay, closing this.