Regeneration vs Death Hax

[Sniper670]

Would High-Godly save you from death hax?

Let's say a death hax that inexplicably kills the victim with just a look, but the victim had high-godly is he going to die permanently, die and resurrect , or not die at all?

There's nothing to.. Uhh... regenerate here.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Would High-Godly save you from death hax?

Let's say a death hax that inexplicably kills the victim with just a look, but the victim had high-godly is he going to die permanently, die and resurrect , or not die at all?

There's nothing to.. Uhh... regenerate here.

If it’s just death then I don’t see high godly protecting you. Unless you have other types of immortality/resistance to death hax

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Immortality handles Death Hax, regeneration is usually focused purely on recovery and keeping you alive. If you die then you die, regen won't really save you.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yeah high godly won’t save you if it’s just die

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Let's say a death hax that inexplicably kills the victim with just a look

And the soul does not get destroyed? high-godly activates and the body regenerates

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Well, assuming that death=soul destruction is already unconventional on itself

MOST of the time in most of fiction, the soul goes somewhere once the body dies, some heaven, reincarnation, or a variation of some kind.

Tho I do wonder how death inducement even works, instant cell decayment? Complete burn down of all nerves? All those can be dealt with Regen.


Or is it more esoteric in nature? In such case soul being destroyed or instant burn down of life-force can be argued... But those are also dealt with this Regen... Hmmmm

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Well, that gets more into what death is, I don't consider it an effect but more of a state of being. It doesn't do anything other than switch you from alive, to dead. Nothing to regenerate to, or from.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Depends on death hax's feat. You can't just assume a death hax would also kill other things about you.

Like some death hax just induces death. But that doesn't mean abilities will die with you or doesn't meant you can be put down by death hax.
Depends on what the death hax explicitly targets too. Conceptual death wouldn't do anything to HGR who can regenerate from loss of Concept.

Tbh it depends on the death hax. There is a reason why some death hax are given regen neg or immo neg alongside it because they have feat of affecting them. So it would be nlf to assume it would kill HGR withour a feat

 

[Sniper670]

Is it nlf when the mechanism behind how Regen works is fundamentally different from me switching you from alive to dead?

Here's the thing, HGR is still regeneration, Death hax is not destroying you. You just die, what is there to regen? Nothing has been destroyed. You're dead.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Is it nlf when the mechanism behind how Regen works is fundamentally different from me switching you from alive to dead?

Here's the thing, HGR is still regeneration, Death hax is not destroying you. You just die, what is there to regen? Nothing has been destroyed. You're dead.

Killing someone does not destroy the soul, soul not destroyed= regeneration activates

There is a reason why some death hax are given regen neg or immo neg alongside it because they have feat of affecting them

Exactly

 

[Sniper670]

Killing someone does not destroy the soul, soul not destroyed= regeneration activates

High Godly requires everything to be erased/destroyed. In this case nothing has been destroyed. You just inexplicably die.

There's no regeneration because there's nothing destroyed to regen

Exactly

I disagree.

 

[Vasco]

You aren't regenerating from anything since it didn't damage you to kill you, you just die.
Though can depend on the potency of the death hax shown

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

High Godly requires everything to be erased/destroyed.

High godly does not require to have everything destroyed, it can activate if a hand is cut

If you just "die" explain the type of death, because killing someone because you destroyed the body makes you regen, if the death is tier 1-A conceptual destruction then maybe you can´t regen that, it depends of the type of hax, not that any simple death hax can kill even a high godly regenerator

Let's say a death hax that inexplicably kills the victim with just a look

This example does not say anything about "your mind is destroyed, your soul is erased" so high godly activates

 

[Sniper670]

High godly does not require to have everything destroyed, it can activate if a hand is cut

Good thing nothing is getting cut her. you just roll over and die.

If you just "die" explain the type of death, because killing someone because you destroyed the body makes you regen, if the death is tier 1-A conceptual destruction then maybe you can´t regen that, it depends of the type of hax, not that any simple death hax can kill even a high godly regenerator

I mentioned the kind of death hax. inexplicable death.

you just up and died

This example does not say anything about "your mind is destroyed, your soul is erased" so high godly activates

nothing gets destroyed or harmed per se. You get switched from alive to dead

 

[Lilixa]

there are incomplete context here, can someone define what is death or kill ?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Foremost, I won't default that death hax > high godly. Clarify what death hax user has been shown as far, because if he only killed a human, a high godly regeneration user will regenerate from this.

 

[Lilixa]

Good thing nothing is getting cut her. you just roll over and die.

I mentioned the kind of death hax. inexplicable death.

you just up and died

nothing gets destroyed or harmed per se. You get switched from alive to dead

but you need to explain or describe what is death means in this context ? what happen to the body or anything?

 

[Lilixa]

honestly if the death hax works like in continuous way and also surpassed the speed of regen itself, yeah that would work. User can regenerated forever but at the same time he got killed forever or infinite time at infinite/immeasurable speed, so he stuck at infinite loop of regen.

 

[ImmortalDread]

The OP wanted to make death hax NLF, he tried but failed lol

 

[Ss3micah]

I mean Mid-Godly Regen allows one to regen from complete destruction/erasure of mind. body and soul
If your body, mind and soul can NOT EXIST and you can still come back from that....
I would imagine conventionally death hax would do little to stop you since destruction/erasure of mind, body and soul is no lesser than conventional death

 

[ImmortalDread]

Ya, death hax is not defaulted to be > high Godly regeneration. Kinda NLF to assume this.

If you death hax a human who barely has any additional existence aspect, then you won't death hax someone regenerated from the whole destruction.

 

[Lilixa]

Well, that gets more into what death is, I don't consider it an effect but more of a state of being. It doesn't do anything other than switch you from alive, to dead. Nothing to regenerate to, or from.

this one interesting, death basically turn you into another state of being which means some kind of metaphysical or higher dimensional transmutation or something, yeah that would work probably ? i am not so sure.

 

[Lilixa]

so yeah in the end it just need feat or context, if death hax able to disable HGR, then death hax would have HGR negs properties in it.

 

[Ss3micah]

Is it nlf when the mechanism behind how Regen works is fundamentally different from me switching you from alive to dead?

If my body, mind and soul are destroyed/erased...... how exactly is that different from Death?

Here's the thing, HGR is still regeneration, Death hax is not destroying you. You just die, what is there to regen? Nothing has been destroyed. You're dead.

VERY SUBJECTIVE
Considering death works differently across different verses

If they way you define death is the irreversible cessation of all vital functions then Godly levels of Regen can reverse that irreversible cessation
If the way you define death is the end of life then Godly levels of Regen can simply restarts and continues life after its initial end
If the way you define death is "you just die" then Godly levels of Regen can simply "let you live again"

There is a reason why on the Immortality pages it mentions that Immortalities can overlap

 

[ImmortalDread]

Sniper just wants to make the ability NLF.

 

[Sniper670]

How do I want to make the ability nlf exactly.

I'm finding it hard to understand how you'd regen from death hax that hasn't even destroyed anything about you, which is where Regen works

 

[Sniper670]

honestly if the death hax works like in continuous way and also surpassed the speed of regen itself, yeah that would work. User can regenerated forever but at the same time he got killed forever or infinite time at infinite/immeasurable speed, so he stuck at infinite loop of regen.

I agree with this. yes.

continues death hax will keep 'em dead

also, could stacked death hax work? let's say death hax that comes bundled with other hax like maybe petrification, time stop, etc

 

[ImmortalDread]

How do I want to make the ability nlf exactly.

By saying that Death hax can negs any high godly user without any context.

I'm finding it hard to understand how you'd regen from death hax that hasn't even destroyed anything about you, which is where Regen works

Not every death hax is same.

 

[Lou_change]

Death manipulation that doesn’t do damage that said when a character comes back from being erased at a conceptual level I think it would be reasonable to say they resurrected given I am pretty sure you can’t be considered alive when you are conceptual nonexistent as that concept doesn’t apply to you but that is just my guess. It probably comes down to context in the end.

 

[Ss3micah]

How do I want to make the ability nlf exactly.

I'm finding it hard to understand how you'd regen from death hax that hasn't even destroyed anything about you, which is where Regen works

Ill make this simple for you

Death is the Absence of Life
Being erased from existence (mind, body and soul) is also the Absence of Life = Death
I can regenerate from nonexistence of Mind, Body of Soul = I can regenerate from the Absence of Life
Death = Absence of Life
Which I can regen from means I can regen from absence of Life = I can regen from Death

I dont care what Death hax is killing, their no way its deeper than being perpetually nonexistent and coming back from that

IM TALKING ABOUT STANDING DEATH HAX BTW

 

[ImmortalDread]

Sniper give up with NLF thoughts. Not every death negs high Godly regeneration users. You should also know this if you are dealing with tier 1 stuff.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

There was a thread discussing what death hax negates what kind of regen

becaue there is some death hax that works in a more material way like Overloards Ainz Grasp heart for example.

Though for high godly regen it would need feats of negating it.

 

[Lou_change]

Ill make this simple for you

Death is the Absence of Life
Being erased from existence (mind, body and soul) is also the Absence of Life = Death
I can regenerate from nonexistence of Mind, Body of Soul = I can regenerate from the Absence of Life
Death = Absence of Life
Which I can regen from means I can regen from absence of Life = I can regen from Death

I dont care what Death hax is killing, their no way its deeper than being perpetually nonexistent and coming back from that

IM TALKING ABOUT STANDING DEATH HAX BTW

Technically death is the cessation of life is not the absence that is inanimate or dead

 

[Sniper670]

Sniper give up with NLF thoughts. Not every death negs high Godly regeneration users. You should also know this if you are dealing with tier 1 stuff.

Dread, what does this have to do with tier 1