Red Demon Blast Calcs (NNT)

[Demon_Lord18]

We have two accepted calculations for this feat, which one should we use?
Red Demon Blast 1
Red Demon Blast 2

 

[Damage3245]

Do we have a confirmed size for the Red Demon? Because I've noticed in that panel that both calcs use, the Red Demon himself is visible which might be useful for comparing to the explosions and could cut out some pixelscaling steps.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Do we have a confirmed size for the Red Demon? Because I've noticed in that panel that both calcs use, the Red Demon himself is visible which might be useful for comparing to the explosions and could cut out some pixelscaling steps.

Yes, it is 8 meters tall, but using it here doesn't seem valid. The Sacred Tree is much larger than the trees that are comparable to the Light of Grace, and the explosions surpass the Sacred Tree in size, even from a distance. Using the Red Demon, we would obtain a 300m Sacred Tree. Even though it is said to surpass a mountain, the Red Demon is more out of scale compared to other things in the scan.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I understand your concern, but I think using the Red Demon would be more problematic

 

[Damage3245]

Yes, it is 8 meters tall, but using it here doesn't seem valid. The Sacred Tree is much larger than the trees that are comparable to the Light of Grace, and the explosions surpass the Sacred Tree in size, even from a distance. Using the Red Demon, we would obtain a 300m Sacred Tree. Even though it is said to surpass a mountain, the Red Demon is more out of scale compared to other things in the scan.

I understand your concern, but I think using the Red Demon would be more problematic

Sure, I see your point with the issues there.

But I'm not sure about the method that assumes all of the trees in the Fairy King's Forest are 7900 feet tall. We get a shot of some trees next to some deer while the Red Giant's feat is occuring and they're not that big. If every tree were that big, then virtually all of the Fairy King's Forest would be taller than mountains, whereas the Sacred Tree specifically is highlighted as being that big compared to mountains.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

But I'm not sure about the method that assumes all of the trees in the Fairy King's Forest are 7900 feet tall. We get a shot of some trees next to some deer while the Red Giant's feat is occuring and they're not that big. If every tree were that big, then virtually all of the Fairy King's Forest would be taller than mountains, whereas the Sacred Tree specifically is highlighted as being that big compared to mountains.

I'm not trying to say that all of them are over 2 km, only the larger ones near the Sacred Tree

edit: I just realized that my message implied that, but I didn't mean to say that. Only those trees would be 2 km

 

[Damage3245]

I'm not trying to say that all of them are over 2 km, only the larger ones near the Sacred Tree

edit: I just realized that my message implied that, but I didn't mean to say that. Only those trees would be 2 km

The trees from the past scene that is being used were also from 3000+ years ago, right? There's no guarantee that the trees that were burned by the Red Demon were still that tall as well.

Ideally there'd be something from the time closer to when the feat took place that we could use as a measuring stick. Perhaps if we had some way of actually measuring the height of the Sacred Tree itself.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

The trees from the past scene that is being used were also from 3000+ years ago, right? There's no guarantee that the trees that were burned by the Red Demon were still that tall as well.

The forest was fully grown, so I think it would have 2 km. Regardless, Nakaba is very inconsistent with the size of the trees compared to the light of grace, so I think it's better to disregard that.

Ideally there'd be something from the time closer to when the feat took place that we could use as a measuring stick. Perhaps if we had some way of actually measuring the height of the Sacred Tree itself.

We have some mountains around it. Here, we have a view of Ban and we can see some mountains around it (the left mountain is next to the tree) and this one in the manga.

Nakaba is very inconsistent with his drawings.

 

[Damage3245]

Closing at the OP's request.