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Recently, there were two content revision threads that were made regarding some feats that were brought out for the Classroom of the Elite verse, which were made to downgrade those feats.
The one I'd like to talk about in particular regards Koenji's cliff feat, which will be linked here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...enji_jumps_a_mountain:_Classroom_of_the_Elite
The forum post that held the discussion for this feat is also here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/youko...hugi-no-kyoushitsu-e-downgrade-thread.168937/
In the second post, the two things that were called upon to be revised were:
I do not have an problem with the feat being reduced to a "Possibly" rating because it was generally agreed upon that Vzearr won that aspect of the debate. However, I do have an issue with the feat only applying to the Ayanokoji's Durability, with everything else being downgraded.
As I showed above, the argument that was made for this feat to not apply to each character's AP is that the two never confronted each other, which is false.
In Y2V3, we witness an instance where Ayanokoji and Koenji meet for one of the island exam's tests. This specific test is a tug of war, and these two are the only male competitors, meaning they're forced to face off against one another.
In this test, we see that Ayanokoji and Koenji seem to be relative in arm strength, according to Ayanokoji's direct statement in his monologue:
Another significant moment is when Ayanokoji fought both Shiba and Tsukishiro, two of the best combatants in the verse. During this fight, Ayanokoji makes this statement:
This means that Ayanokoji's AP should be > his own Durability, and according to the original post and the general scaling of the verse on their respective profiles, Ayanokoji scales to Koenji in terms of Durability.
This would mean that Ayanokoji possesses the necessary AP to bypass Koenji's Durability. Furthermore, Koenji's similar level of arm strength to Ayanokoji suggests he may have a similar level of AP as well, meaning he'd be able to bypass his own Durability.
Conclusion and Content Revision Request:
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Ayanokoji and Koenji's AP rating should be reverted back to Wall-Level, but with the limitation of "Possibly" being added to it like Ayanokoji's Durability currently has written for it.
The one I'd like to talk about in particular regards Koenji's cliff feat, which will be linked here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...enji_jumps_a_mountain:_Classroom_of_the_Elite
The forum post that held the discussion for this feat is also here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/youko...hugi-no-kyoushitsu-e-downgrade-thread.168937/
In the second post, the two things that were called upon to be revised were:
- Downgrades to Ayanokoji and Koenji's AP.
- The feat being downgraded to a "Possibly Wall-Level" rating for their respective Durability only.
This is my main issue with the post, as this argument allowed Vzearr to make changes to Ayanokoji's AP rating despite it not being the main focal point of the debate between him and RoggerReggor. What the two discussed was the validity of the durability feat itself, not it's relation to the AP scaling of the characters.
- This scales to Kouenji's and Ayanokouji's attack potency. In the thread for this upgrade there wasn't any reasoning for this to scale to their attack potency. Ayanokouji nor Kouenji have ever fought or hurt each other. Which is why the feat should be limited to durability.
I do not have an problem with the feat being reduced to a "Possibly" rating because it was generally agreed upon that Vzearr won that aspect of the debate. However, I do have an issue with the feat only applying to the Ayanokoji's Durability, with everything else being downgraded.
As I showed above, the argument that was made for this feat to not apply to each character's AP is that the two never confronted each other, which is false.
In Y2V3, we witness an instance where Ayanokoji and Koenji meet for one of the island exam's tests. This specific test is a tug of war, and these two are the only male competitors, meaning they're forced to face off against one another.
In this test, we see that Ayanokoji and Koenji seem to be relative in arm strength, according to Ayanokoji's direct statement in his monologue:
RoggerReggor also brought this up in his initial comment, but no further discussion was made for this, and the topic moved over to the tree discussion, which I have no input for.It’s not like I was going easy on him, not by any means. However, the force he was exerting on the rope was so great that it drew the center flag back to its place in between us, returning the match to a state of equilibrium.
From this, it seemed that Kōenji and I were just about evenly matched when it came to arm strength.
Another significant moment is when Ayanokoji fought both Shiba and Tsukishiro, two of the best combatants in the verse. During this fight, Ayanokoji makes this statement:
In this instance, Ayanokoji is tricked by Tsukishiro and Shiba due to them holding back their abilities until a moment of surprise. Ayanokoji notes after this that if he remained careless in this moment, he would have been immediately "stopped", or defeated. Ayanokoji also states that Shiba's attacking power here was relative to his own.I tried to focus my attention on dealing with and damaging Shiba, who was still behind me, but then something unexpected happened. I felt a cold sensation on the nape of my neck, inevitably forcing me to bring my counterattack to a halt. I took evasive action once again for what felt like the millionth time and moved away from Tsukishiro. Moments after I moved, Shiba’s arm swung by me. The sound of his fist flying through the air rang in my ears.
If I had carelessly gone through with trying to trade blows with Shiba, I might have been stopped at once. Shiba’s attack just then had most definitely boasted the same level of power as my own.
This means that Ayanokoji's AP should be > his own Durability, and according to the original post and the general scaling of the verse on their respective profiles, Ayanokoji scales to Koenji in terms of Durability.
This would mean that Ayanokoji possesses the necessary AP to bypass Koenji's Durability. Furthermore, Koenji's similar level of arm strength to Ayanokoji suggests he may have a similar level of AP as well, meaning he'd be able to bypass his own Durability.
Conclusion and Content Revision Request:
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Ayanokoji and Koenji's AP rating should be reverted back to Wall-Level, but with the limitation of "Possibly" being added to it like Ayanokoji's Durability currently has written for it.