Reaching tier 1A

[HammerStrikes219]

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Anyway, I've re-read the scans and it seems that the higher dimensions in the setting are treated as having ontological superiority to lower ones. As such, The Root being the source of all concepts and beings, including those of space and time as well as dimensionality itself should be enough to prove that it's superior to dimensions on any level.

As such, I agree with the upgrade of The Root to 1-A for now.”

 

[Sniper670]

This wouldn't even net you anything than a higher dimensionality over lower realm and BDE 2.

Especially for a verse that doesn't even have anything beyond 11D, yeah you ain't getting 1A with that

We haven't given Arceus 1A for being beyond the concept of dimensions have we? It doesn't work like that.

As I said, Root is mainly due to Apophatic Theology. Simply being beyond dimensions is BDE 2

 

[HammerStrikes219]

This wouldn't even net you anything than a higher dimensionality over lower realm and BDE 2.

Especially for a verse that doesn't even have anything beyond 11D, yeah you ain't getting 1A with that

We haven't given Arceus 1A for being beyond the concept of dimensions have we? It doesn't work like that.

As I said, Root is mainly due to Apophatic Theology. Simply being beyond dimensions is BDE 2

Using this logic can kinda backfire though as that will mean the Big G who does reside in the Root being 11D. That was stated in the OP of that 1A root multiple times too.

 

[Sniper670]

Ehh..... for a verse with very few dimensions we're not defaulting to 1A based on that.

 

[Sniper670]

It has to being proven superior over a 2A structural

Isn't large Size type 10, low 1C by default?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I got perhaps another unconventional one. But it'll be a minute

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Isn't large Size type 10, low 1C by default?

Type 10 (Higher-Order): Characters larger than a conventional multiverse, having size equivalent to higher infinities.

Infinite superior to 2A

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Isn't large Size type 10, low 1C by default?

On the other hand, you need to have a 5 dimensional space IIRC.

 

[Sniper670]

Type 10 (Higher-Order): Characters larger than a conventional multiverse, having size equivalent to higher infinities.

Infinite superior to 2A

Being larger than a 2A structure is already an infinte Superiority tho.

I mean, no matter how infinite and infinitely expanding it is, it'll never reach the entity size

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Being larger than a 2A structure is already an infinte Superiority tho.

I mean, no matter how infinite and infinitely expanding it is, it'll never reach the entity size

We do have a Type 9 too.
“Type 9 (Multiversal): Characters as large as, or larger than, a collection of several universal space-time continuums. Note that as with all of these types, this is only referring to size. Having 4-dimensional power or above does not qualify as having multiversal size, but such characters can contend with them”

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Anyway, back on the topic of your own question, there are specific ways to achieve 1A like doing platonic concepts and having more evidence that proved 1A as you need so much evidence to even reach Tier 1A let alone Tier High 1A.

 

[Sniper670]

Just how easy Swirl of Root had it tho

Intriguing

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Just how easy Swirl of Root had it tho

Intriguing

I think it is because of all the evidences posted in the CRT for the root and having to discuss with other ppl. Not that easy as shown by the many scans.

 

[Sniper670]

From Ultima

Statements of ineffability or incomprehensibility generally are not enough, no, since to prove such a thing, you'd need the verse to establish that this is an inherent property of the character in question, instead of just some hyperbolic statement that's meant to be talking about how they're hard to grasp (Even 4-dimensional space is visually incomprehensible to us, after all)

I think the Nasuverse is a good enough example of this. Since it actually goes out of its way to say that the Root always escapes any definitions one attempts to impose on it, which automatically just refer to something apart from, and below the Root itself.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

From Ultima

I figured as much as it depends on context.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I got perhaps another unconventional one. But it'll be a minute

So about this one. It's very context dependent. If a trustworthy character for information on the multiverse says another character is "beyond human logic." It can be supporting evidence of low 1-C but it's context dependent.

 

[Sniper670]

I didn't know that could work