Ralts and Riolu line profile revision/canon separation + Groudon's inside story (Staff input needed!!!)

[SamanPatou]

Groudon aside, I believe Riolu and Ralts can be applied.
We still need to figure something out for most of the mons' LS, but for now they can stay unknown.

One more thing, I believe this will be applied soon, so the profiles need to be adjusted accordingly.

 

[Imaginym]

Groudon aside, I believe Riolu and Ralts can be applied.
We still need to figure something out for most of the mons' LS, but for now they can stay unknown.

Perhaps that should be discussed in the Pokemon General Discussion Thread, presuming the other matters in this thread are resolved?

Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

I believe they are more so aligned with Social Influencing cause those moves are not supernaturally manipulating emotions, unlike something like G-Max Cuddle. I'm not 100% sure if the game Swift is enough to qualify for Danmaku. Fair. May require checking animations to check which, if any...

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New, as-of-yet-undetermined basises for LS sound like something that wouldn't be ideally productive to introduce midway into a CRT, & would be better handled in General Discussion.

 

[SamanPatou]

Sure, I was meaning to say that if we want to conclude this CRT, we could go on and apply the major changes while leaving the LS unknown for the time being and deal with it in an another place.

 

[koopa3144]

Groudon aside, I believe Riolu and Ralts can be applied.
We still need to figure something out for most of the mons' LS, but for now they can stay unknown.

One more thing, I believe this will be applied soon, so the profiles need to be adjusted accordingly.

I'll switch the LS for Riolu and Ralts to unknown and apply their profile revisions then.

 

[Imaginym]

It should be redone honestly.

I need to pothole/pigeonhole/whatever this link or else the forum's system STUPIDLY turns the colon followed by the D in @DontTalk's VSBW Fandom username into a : D (No space.) emote, breaking the link.
That calc should be redone, right?

Mentioning it here for convenience of quoting the post for now & may be good to have a reminder of this matter even if it's to be resolved in a different thread.

Anyway, aside from Mons that are stated to be physically weak, we might find an average superhuman for those mons that learn some kind of physical moves which would require them to perform muscular activity and are supposed to lift even heavyweight Mons or fling heavy objects like the Iron Ball.

I could have sworn we used to use Fling-based calculation on Pokemon profiles.

It may be there on previous versions of profiles. But I can't find any such calculations AtM.

Perhaps it was an off-site Narutoforums Archive Calculation? If so, someone may have to look into a way to find those at another time & place.
Or maybe it was never a thing to begin with?

 

[Imaginym]

I'll switch the LS for Riolu and Ralts to unknown and apply their profile revisions then.

Is it Baby or 1st stage Pokemon scaling to Unknown LS for that?
Or both? Or are we scaling Ralts to Baby tier because it has a worse-than-Magikarp level base stat total or something?

 

[koopa3144]

Changes have been applied. I'll make a sperpate crt for possible Pokemon LS ratings later.

Is it Baby or 1st stage Pokemon scaling to Unknown LS for that?
Or both? Or are we scaling Ralts to Baby tier because it has a worse-than-Magikarp level base stat total or something?

Their at Unknown cause Pokemon LS still needs to be discussed.

 

[SamanPatou]

I need to pothole/pigeonhole/whatever this link or else the forum's system STUPIDLY turns the colon followed by the D in @DontTalk's VSBW Fandom username into a : D (No space.) emote, breaking the link.
That calc should be redone, right?

I'd say so, even just out of it being 8 years old.

I could have sworn we used to use Fling-based calculation on Pokemon profiles.

I remember that too and Iron Ball was giving good results.
Pretty much any mon can learn it and I'd argue it could easily scale even when they don't know the move, since it's more """skill-based""" rather than a strength upgrade like Strength is implied to be.

Is it Baby or 1st stage Pokemon scaling to Unknown LS for that?
Or both? Or are we scaling Ralts to Baby tier because it has a worse-than-Magikarp level base stat total or something?

Right now pretty much all of 'em, because stuff like the Machop's line strength is clearly noted as their peculiarity, and same goes for psychic-types, as their mental prowess shouldn't scale to the physicals of anyone else, especially because it doesn't scale to their own in the first place (Alakazam being an example).