Ragyō Kiryüin vs White Zeref

[Schnee_One]

Jellal and Laxus would be High 6C if they scaled

The speed difference is borderline Sub Rel between both and the feat itself isn't even a 2x difference.

Also, unless specified SBA is win via anything, meaning Ragyō can incap

Where does Mach 7000 come from BTW?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Not actually Mach 7000 but close enough.

 

[Schnee_One]

Weird how Mach 4800 was accepted over 7000...

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Rag have any ability which can bypass zeref immortality and curse, because even if zeref is getting mind control then his curse will start work on its own, also rag didn't have any resistance to time manipulation and she can destroy zeref physically since he will come back(because of time manipulation not because of Regenerationn)

 

[Schnee_One]

The curse helps....How?

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What's the vote count?

 

[Schnee_One]

There is exactly one vote for Zeref that says he wins via the speed gap

Which as I already said, is negligible at best.

Also, Zeref is scaled from Mach 4800 not 7000, as I found out.

So neither for either character

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Pretty sure Zeref is scaled from Mach 6900+

 

[Schnee_One]

I thought that was rejected due to Angsizing?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I don't remember much, but I don't remember us getting a solid end (I personally force myself not to remember much from that time). I just remember that it was either or. Don't know much about calcs, but I always thought Mach 6900+ was the accepted end.

 

[Schnee_One]

There were two ends to the feat, with two different yet valid assumptions, so it was asked on that very calc which End was more acceptable

Check the comments if you're confused, they explain better then I do

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I really don't care enough. If it's 4800+ oh well.

 

[Schnee_One]

Rechecking the calcs it seems Lina recalled it to 4900 as well.

If someone does show 6900 is the accepted end, Ill count the vote, 4500 vs 4900 is a nonexistent difference

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

So if Zeref scales to Mach 4900, isn't Ragyo significantly faster than him, if not to the point of blitzing him?

 

[Schnee_One]

Considering the speed Scaling? No

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Didn't you say that Ragyo's scaling chain is bigger?

 

[Schnee_One]

White Zeref>Pre RoT Dragon Acno and Igneel>Animus>Pre RoT Human Acno>=DF Natsu>FDKM Natsu>Base Zeref>August>Gildarts>Irene>Weakened Erza=Mach 4900

Yes, but Zeref is also Huge

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Their speed different is small to the point that speed will not be beaten factor in either of them winning

 

[Schnee_One]

^

That

Also is Weekly gonna vote or...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I don't know how zer3f works, ive been waiting for a proper explanation of what he can do

From the looks of it though ragyo should take it via mind stitching

Also someone make karthus vs zeref ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

As you wish

Basically, Zeref spams Death Manipulation projectiles and AoE, and regenerates himself on a Mid-High level.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I see, and he has no resistance to Ragyo's mind manip?

 

[TriforcePower1]

He could get a resistance via a new thread, but I'm quite sure it's below Ragyo's.

 

[Schnee_One]

I see, and he has no resistance to Ragyo's mind manip?

Well he may get resistance but it's not good enough, likewise, she doesn't resist Death stuff

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes but her threads do as they're not alive, and all she needs is one

 

[TriforcePower1]

How many threads does she have?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Several thousand and they're all invisble and undetectable by people with atupidly good enhanced senses

 

[TriforcePower1]

More than enough to mindhax Zeref then.

 

[Elizhaa]

There is content revision which zeref is currently getting resistance to mind hax so this match should be hold for now

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Even if he gets it he wount have a good enough resistance to resist Ragyo's, its already been brought up in this thread

 

[Schnee_One]

All of this and 0-0

Fantastic

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I mean I voted for Ragyo...

Still waiting for zeref vs karthus too

 

[Schnee_One]

Still waiting for zeref vs karthus too

Stomp

And for what reasons again? Lost why.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Death hax spam

 

[Schnee_One]

But Zeref spams Death, not Ragyo

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No karthus

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Zeref is getting resistance to that from Mavis.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How good of a resistance is it?