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Quick question on ger's infinite speed ranking

Thebannanaworkshop said:
the reason people werent conscious was because rtz was active...we see this because mid barrage when it switches to rtz we see that while ger attacked diavolo giorno isnt aware nor conscious.

2.k pls do so without strawmanning
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1 Can you send link?

2 Reguarding passive, let's take the definition of passive. Passive isn't for the most case instantly (being faster than infinite) or not controllated.

Example in JoJo is Weather Report.
We can thing Return to zero is a passive because he work everytime you try to hit him, ye... but how much are the probablity? 5/10? 4/10? ye it's 4 or 5, and the other 5 or 6 probability could be others, like Ger was consciucly because i don't really belive in this theory. and neither ger or giorno say something, So here are 2 case. 1 it's a passive 2 it's inacessible.

In this case we need analizze what ger "Null" stats means.
 
it's the only thing with a sense, that we can do. i don't really want debate on probability for the rest of life
 
manu_zarri said:
1 Can you send link?

2 Reguarding passive, let's take the definition of passive. Passive isn't for the most case instantly (being faster than infinite) or not controllated.

Example in JoJo is Weather Report.
We can thing Return to zero is a passive because he work everytime you try to hit him, ye... but how much are the probablity? 5/10? 4/10? ye it's 4 or 5, and the other 5 or 6 probability could be others, like Ger was consciucly because i don't really belive in this theory. and neither ger or giorno say something, So here are 2 case. 1 it's a passive 2 it's inacessible.

In this case we need analizze what ger "Null" stats means.
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1. when ger punches diavolo you should notice the universal background
2.passive 1. ger's rtz happens regardless if giorno wants it or not..and it likely happens 100% of the time because it happened three times and one time ger just made it happen mid barrage. so yeah its passive in the sense that it happens automatically without input...thats undisputable
 
hmmm, we are not really sure, i will probably take in consideration the ger stats, what null means?
 
manu_zarri said:
hmmm, we are not really sure, i will probably take in consideration the ger stats, what null means?
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nah. we are sure because there is literally no other explanation and null from what this passage means is immeasurable or more powerful than most stands according to this passage.

全てを無に帰す究極のスタンド!! Lボルナレフのレクイエムを破壊後、「矢」を手にしたジョルノが自身のゴールド・エクスペリエンスを買いて発現。「矢」のパワーは完全にジョルノのコントロール下にある。能力は攻撃をしてくる相手の動作や意志を全て無に帰してしまうこと。さらに既存のスタンドを超えるほどの攻撃力をもっているため、「究極のスタンド」といえる存在だ。レクイエムに殴られた者は死んだことも無に帰してしまい、何度も死に続けることに。そのため自分の予知を信じて攻撃したディアボロは、永遠に死を体験し続けることになってしまった。「矢」によって化したレクイエムの能力は、職存のスタンドと同じ物差しで比べるのは不可能。あらゆる意志や力をぜロにしてしまう厳力は、本体のジョルノでさえも気いていないのだ。「レクイエムの前では、全ての敵の意志は無力。敵は自分の意志の先に得られる結果に、永遠にすることはないのだ。（63-99）DORCATRAREQUIEM 000ジョルノ・ジョバアーナ1985年4月16日生まれで血液型はAB型その確国たる意本でついに「」を支配する力を得て、崎の「頂点に立った。破壊パワーもアップ!!「矢に書かれてゴールド・エクスペリエンスの能力が進化しパワーとスピードが大幅にアップ、その攻撃はキングクリムソンにも傷を負わせた。54-77）意志を無力に！



The ultimate stand to return everything to nothing! After destroying L pornareff's Requiem, Giorno with the "arrow" in hand bought his gold experience and expressed. The power of the “arrow” is completely under the control of Giorno. The ability is to return all actions and will of the attacking opponent to nothing. Furthermore, because it has an attack power that exceeds existing stands, it can be said to be the “ultimate stand”. Those who have been beaten by Requiem have died, and will continue to die many times. As a result, Diaboro, who believed in his prediction and attacked, would continue to experience death. The ability of Requiem that has been turned into "arrows" cannot be compared with the same ruler as the standing stand. Even Jorno of the main body doesn't care about the rigorous power that will make every will and power be lost. “In front of Requiem, the will of all enemies is powerless. The enemies will never have the result of their will. (63-99) DORCATRAREQUIEM 000 Giorno Giovaana April 1985 Born on the 16th, blood type AB type finally gained the power to dominate "" with its indebted spirit, and stood at the top of Saki's "The top of destruction power!" Has evolved and power and speed have been greatly improved, and the attack has also hurt King Crimson.54-77) Powerless!

ignore the bad translation.
 
No

To be immesurable he needs to

1. Be unbound by linear time

2. Shown the ability to be able to travel thro time via speed alone
 
Thebannanaworkshop said:
doesnt make sense considering what jojo a go go says about ger
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Those are the standarts of the wiki for those speed ratings

Instant, faster than time, moving at 0 = infinite speed

Unbound by linear time, being able to travel freely thro time, attacks beings able to hit from the past/future = immesurable
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Those are the standarts of the wiki for those speed ratings

Instant, faster than time, moving at 0 = infinite speed

Unbound by linear time, being able to travel freely thro time, attacks beings able to hit from the past/future = immesurable
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but thats not what null means for ger...other stands in jojo have null stats and arent anywhere near infinite speed...so like
 
so... what now? we know ger isnt infinite and we know it isnt immeasurable...so like.

i guess ger is getting the mih treatment and will be downgraded to MFTL+
 
I don't know why it's still listed as Infinite. Its justification is moving and talking in erased time, but timeless voids were gutted ages ago.
 
what other stands? choocolate on disco have in AP but noobody in speed. and it isn't a good argomentation, we need get what "None"/"Null" means in the context
 
Reguarding Johnny, HA Dio and Jotaro EoH they should take MFTL+ possibily Infinite. (via Johnny speed feats.)
 
we know ger isnt infinte because araki actually Compares ger's strength and speed to other stands...and didnt mention him being infinite
 
Good god this thread, the ger speed crt was put on hold. Chariot already have statements supporting ger infinite speed, he's prob just waiting for the actual crt thread. Kinda tired of "why does ger still have infinite speed rating" threads myself.
 
via scaling what? when he fighted? we only see ger at the end of Part 5.
And there is no proof he scale made in heaven
 
Scaling to notorious BIG is the most obvious one but anyway, let's just wait for the actual crt thread rather than discussing it in these kinds of threads. Because i have a funny feeling a few more will pop up, just like it continously did in the past. People kinda already got tired with it me included
 
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