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1.Is transcending infinite amounts of Regular space-time continuum still 5D?

2.is fate manipulation bound by dimensionality? Do you have to prove that the character's fate manipulation is at a certain dimension tier Immortality in order to use it on Higher dimensional beings?

3.Do outerversal Characters have a ontology and are they still a Concept?

4.is transcending a infinite spatial dimension H1-B? or transcending Infinite amounts of spatial dimensions H1-B?

5.What are outerversal "Frameworks" Are they used to define a qualification for outerversal?

6.Does outerversal Have different types of qualifications? Aka different ways to achieve it

7.why is transcending dimensionality low 1-a but transcending the concepts of it Is 1-A?

8.Why is "Transcending" considered to be a Vague statement? (According to the FAQ page)

9.does transcending ALL concepts that exist scale you to high outerversal or boundless or below?

10.Does destorying a concept make you 1-A?
 
1.Is transcending infinite amounts of Regular space-time continuum still 5D?
Depends, most of the time it needs context. But yes it can be 5D. Don’t even need to transcend an infinite amount too.
2.is fate manipulation bound by dimensionality? Do you have to prove that the character's fate manipulation is at a certain dimension tier Immortality in order to use it on Higher dimensional beings
Uhhh, I forgot what happened to Smurf. I’m not sure, pretty sure non physical things can’t be Smurf. But yeah i think you need affect a higher D. being for fate manipulation to work cross verse against a tier 1 character.
3.Do outerversal Characters have an ontology and are they still a Concept?
Not sure what you mean by this but I think so.
4.is transcending a infinite spatial dimension H1-B? or transcending Infinite amounts of spatial dimensions H1-B?
Transcending an infinite amount of higher dimensional spatial dimensions is 1 layer into H1-B, low 1-A to 1-A with context.
5.What are outerversal "Frameworks" Are they used to define a qualification for outerversal?
Qualitative superiority I think, like a 1-A thing can’t be reached or downgraded into a non 1-A by other non 1-A stuff.
6.Does outerversal Have different types of qualifications? Aka different ways to achieve it
Yeah, everything really falls under the same banner of qualitative superiority tho.
7.why is transcending dimensionality low 1-a but transcending the concepts of it Is 1-A?
Transcending the concept of it isn’t automatically 1-A, needs context and stuff.
8.Why is "Transcending" considered to be a Vague statement? (According to the FAQ page)
Because it’s either direct superiority or just existing outside of something. Like transcending space and time is a common statement. But if it just means one exists outside of space-time, then it’s not really tierable.
9.does transcending ALL concepts that exist scale you to high outerversal or boundless or below?
No.
10.Does destorying a concept make you 1-A?
If the concept is 1-A.
 
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1.Is transcending infinite amounts of Regular space-time continuum still 5D?
Yes, though just transcending one is 5D too under certain context.
2.is fate manipulation bound by dimensionality? Do you have to prove that the character's fate manipulation is at a certain dimension tier Immortality in order to use it on Higher dimensional beings?
Yes. "Fate" is treated as "Future", whereas "Future" is an aspect of Time, whereas Time has levels. Though it depends on how it's depicted in-verse, since what the verse calls "Fate" could be something else in our terms.
3.Do outerversal Characters have a ontology and are they still a Concept?
I'm not sure what the question is supposed to be, but if you meant whether they have a different ontology or not, then yes, they do. Not sure what you mean by concept part.
4.is transcending a infinite spatial dimension H1-B? or transcending Infinite amounts of spatial dimensions H1-B?
First is just +1D. Like how a 2D structure transcends the spatial dimensio of a 1D construct as far as size and extensions go.

Latter is what is High 1-B+. High 1-B is an infinite amount of higher dimensions (spatial, temporal, or both depending on context) while high 1-B+ is transcending that as a whole structure.
5.What are outerversal "Frameworks" Are they used to define a qualification for outerversal?
Outerversal frameworks are basically ontologically/qualitatively higher frameworks. For example, "more real" is a quality commonly associated with higher ontology.

And yes, although each layer of outerversal has its own qualitatively higher frameworks of dimensionality, all the outer layers still apply to a specific framework as a whole, such as the framework of "real-ness" which dictates the difference in 1-A layers.
6.Does outerversal Have different types of qualifications? Aka different ways to achieve it
Yes. Being more real, being completely transcendent of non 1-A not due to size but due to ontology, being a certain type of Monad, etc. There are many ways.
7.why is transcending dimensionality low 1-a but transcending the concepts of it Is 1-A?
Transcending dimensionality can be both low 1-A and 1-A depending on context. It is indexed as low 1-A when transcending dimensionality is by extension of size, which is the default assumption, while it's 1-A if it both transcends and lacks dimensionality (like a background canvas that lacks space and time but is also bigger than space-time).

The concept of Dimensionality, by nature, would hold all possible extensions of dimensionality unless proven otherwise, whether as potential objects or actual objects participating in its idea of dimensionality. That itself is already Low 1-A, so transcending that would naturally be 1-A (unless anti feats are present, which could lead to it only being tiered at layers into low 1-A or aby lower tier)
8.Why is "Transcending" considered to be a Vague statement? (According to the FAQ page)
Because the word "transcend" can mean many things. It can mean "to move from one point to another", "to cross a boundary", "to go beyond a structure", or "to be beyond it's size". Concluding it's the latter without any context would be considered high balling.
9.does transcending ALL concepts that exist scale you to high outerversal or boundless or below?
That can either depend on cosmology or on the statement itself.

For example, transcending all "logically possible concepts" by extension of size is high 1-A+ (since the set of all logical possibilities is ultimately bigger than any arbitrarily large logical possibility). On the other hand, transcending all logically possible concepts by extension of ontology is tier 0 unless anti feats are present.

On the other hand, if the "all concepts" are limited to a specific type, such as all concepts within space and time, all type 2 concepts, all type 1 concepts, etc. can be put at varying tiers depending on cosmology.
10.Does destorying a concept make you 1-A?
No. It doesn't give you any tier unless you're destroying a concept that is 1-A itself, which is not always the case.

A concept can be limited to any area, even as small as a room, or be as large as a universe and beyond in its area of encompassment. Plus it depends on the type of concept you're destroying. Destroying the concept of space and time would theoretical put you at minimum tier 2, but destroying the concept of apples won't.
 
Yes, though just transcending one is 5D too under certain context.

Yes. "Fate" is treated as "Future", whereas "Future" is an aspect of Time, whereas Time has levels. Though it depends on how it's depicted in-verse, since what the verse calls "Fate" could be something else in our terms.


I'm not sure what the question is supposed to be, but if you meant whether they have a different ontology or not, then yes, they do. Not sure what you mean by concept part.

First is just +1D. Like how a 2D structure transcends the spatial dimensio of a 1D construct as far as size and extensions go.

Latter is what is High 1-B+. High 1-B is an infinite amount of higher dimensions (spatial, temporal, or both depending on context) while high 1-B+ is transcending that as a whole structure.

Outerversal frameworks are basically ontologically/qualitatively higher frameworks. For example, "more real" is a quality commonly associated with higher ontology.

And yes, although each layer of outerversal has its own qualitatively higher frameworks of dimensionality, all the outer layers still apply to a specific framework as a whole, such as the framework of "real-ness" which dictates the difference in 1-A layers.

Yes. Being more real, being completely transcendent of non 1-A not due to size but due to ontology, being a certain type of Monad, etc. There are many ways.

Transcending dimensionality can be both low 1-A and 1-A depending on context. It is indexed as low 1-A when transcending dimensionality is by extension of size, which is the default assumption, while it's 1-A if it both transcends and lacks dimensionality (like a background canvas that lacks space and time but is also bigger than space-time).

The concept of Dimensionality, by nature, would hold all possible extensions of dimensionality unless proven otherwise, whether as potential objects or actual objects participating in its idea of dimensionality. That itself is already Low 1-A, so transcending that would naturally be 1-A (unless anti feats are present, which could lead to it only being tiered at layers into low 1-A or aby lower tier)

Because the word "transcend" can mean many things. It can mean "to move from one point to another", "to cross a boundary", "to go beyond a structure", or "to be beyond it's size". Concluding it's the latter without any context would be considered high balling.

That can either depend on cosmology or on the statement itself.

For example, transcending all "logically possible concepts" by extension of size is high 1-A+ (since the set of all logical possibilities is ultimately bigger than any arbitrarily large logical possibility). On the other hand, transcending all logically possible concepts by extension of ontology is tier 0 unless anti feats are present.

On the other hand, if the "all concepts" are limited to a specific type, such as all concepts within space and time, all type 2 concepts, all type 1 concepts, etc. can be put at varying tiers depending on cosmology.

No. It doesn't give you any tier unless you're destroying a concept that is 1-A itself, which is not always the case.

A concept can be limited to any area, even as small as a room, or be as large as a universe and beyond in its area of encompassment. Plus it depends on the type of concept you're destroying. Destroying the concept of space and time would theoretical put you at minimum tier 2, but destroying the concept of apples won't.
While you sound somewhat reasonable, I don’t think we treat it that way. Any metaphysical hax is not bound by dimensions by default, which includes fate hax, and that’s why the 7D rating for Sonic’s fate manipulation was removed.
 
While you sound somewhat reasonable, I don’t think we treat it that way. Any metaphysical hax is not bound by dimensions by default, which includes fate hax, and that’s why the 7D rating for Sonic’s fate manipulation was removed.
Pretty sure Fate hax is not "metaphysical" by default. Time is not metaphysical, and neither is fate. Sonic might have another reason for that to happen.

You can't simply say that a certain Fate hax would effect a 5D being simply because it affected a 3D being in-verse. That would be NLF. In fact, this case is similar to plot manipulation, which was also heavily limited due to people assuming it could effect just about anyone without resistance to it.
 
1.Is transcending infinite amounts of Regular space-time continuum still 5D?
Yes, if the transcendence is proven, it's 5D.
2.is fate manipulation bound by dimensionality? Do you have to prove that the character's fate manipulation is at a certain dimension tier Immortality in order to use it on Higher dimensional beings?
No, fate is considered metaphysical, and this wiki doesn't apply dimensions to any metaphysical aspect. (mind, soul, spirit, etc)
3.Do outerversal Characters have a ontology and are they still a Concept?
Any "being" is ontological, and no, they aren't a "concept" in all contexts.
4.is transcending a infinite spatial dimension H1-B? or transcending Infinite amounts of spatial dimensions H1-B?
An infinite spatial dimension doesn't mean there's an infinite number of them, so, only transcending an infinite number of spatial dimensions scales to H1-B.
5.What are outerversal "Frameworks" Are they used to define a qualification for outerversal?
The framework that defines Outerverse level is "Qualitative Superiority" which you can find the definition of in the FaQ page or the page explaining tiers in the 1-A secton.
7.why is transcending dimensionality low 1-a but transcending the concepts of it Is 1-A?
L1-A isn't transcending dimensionality, it's transcending all possible extensions of dimensionality.
8.Why is "Transcending" considered to be a Vague statement? (According to the FAQ page)
It can mean many things, heck it can even be referring to simple time-travel.
9.does transcending ALL concepts that exist scale you to high outerversal or boundless or below?
It's something very vague, so I'll just quote what a moderator has said before:
Transcending all concepts on its own is in no way valid for tiering purposes. It can lead to a massive NLF due it being not properly described.

You can just say, they transcend the concept of Infinity and the concept of Higher Infinites and the concept of Tiering. You can also say they transcend the concept of transcendence, and the concept of transcending transcendence, and the concept of Absolute Infinity, and the concept of mathmatics, and the concept of...

It's never-ending, it's a statement that spirals and couldn't even be properly tiered.
10.Does destorying a concept make you 1-A?
No, unless the concept itself is 1-A.
 
Yes, if the transcendence is proven, it's 5D.

No, fate is considered metaphysical, and this wiki doesn't apply dimensions to any metaphysical aspect. (mind, soul, spirit, etc)

Any "being" is ontological, and no, they aren't a "concept" in all contexts.

An infinite spatial dimension doesn't mean there's an infinite number of them, so, only transcending an infinite number of spatial dimensions scales to H1-B.

The framework that defines Outerverse level is "Qualitative Superiority" which you can find the definition of in the FaQ page or the page explaining tiers in the 1-A secton.

L1-A isn't transcending dimensionality, it's transcending all possible extensions of dimensionality.

It can mean many things, heck it can even be referring to simple time-travel.

It's something very vague, so I'll just quote what a moderator has said before:


No, unless the concept itself is 1-A.
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