Question about Witch domain and Red Truth

[Nekobako]

1. If Creators view the Witch domain that has its own layer as a gameboard (Free from restrictions shows that they exist outside the layer of the witch domain) while witches in the Witch domain view the stories in the Human domain as a fragment or gameboard but those fragments also have their own layers as a part of the story of that fragment within the domain (same as the Witch domain) like
Higurashi 5D from Ryun dimension
Hotarubi 4D
Umineko 8D from higher world

And witches will always view and exist outside fragment no matter how many the layers are in fragment (as long as that layer is still a part of fragment) so should the Witch domain also get 1-A by viewing the Human domain as a fragment or gameboard like a Creator?

Edit to add more details
Acausality (Type 5. Exists completely outside of the chessboard and is unrestrained by the limitations of the Human Domain) while chessboard in Human domain has its own layer like witch domain and Witch exists completely outside of Human domain and views it just a fragment as fiction.

2. Why the Red Truth can't affect higher layers?
I will use an example from this
Meta-Battler used the Red Truth on himself to show that his name is "Ushiromiya Battler" but Beatrice said that "You are not Ushiromiya Asumu's son" (referred to Meta-Battler)

It means Meta-Battler isn't Ushiromiya Asumu's son but that sentence never mentioned time, place and event so even if Meta-Battler exists in a higher layer like Purgatory, Golden Land or City of books (different place), he still isn't Asumu's son and his name is still Ushiromiya Battler because Meta-Battler on every layer is still the same character.

*If the Red Truth won't affect a higher layer, it means Meta-Battler in a higher layer can be Asumu's son.

 

[LuciferX]

but in real world, battler is not asumu's son?

 

[Nekobako]

but in real world, battler is not asumu's son?

Yes, Manga Ep8 already answered that.
I just focus on Meta-Battler because it's work as Ushiromiya Battler's character info.

 

[Nekobako]

Bump

Additional for the first question
Witch isn't just only exist outside of the Human domain/territory and view it as a mere gameboard but they also transcended the human level and reach in the world of witch so Human level and its own hierarchy cannot reach the world of witch.

When Lambda told about the ladder and restriction she said "Maybe our world is just like going down to an infinite ladder".
"Our world" means the world of witch so the concept of ladder cannot be used on Human domain because she mentioned about the world of witch.

So both Human domain and Witch domain has its own hierarchy (layer within the story of Human domain) while Creator exists outside of the hierarchy of witch domain, Witch exists outside of the hierarchy human domain as well.

 

[Nekobako]

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Addition: What I am trying so ask is even an infinite layer of Human domain can't reach the Witch domain without transcending the Human Territory/Human level/Human domain by becoming a witch or any evidence to show that layer is in the Witch domain.

 

[Ovy7]

Ye, the entire thing from point 1 is pretty much on point. We just went with how it currently is as a lowball cause the big og crt was more focused on reviving the verse than and full tiering and stuff.

Might do a big thread for the Human and Witch domain at some point (read: probably when Phase 2 released).

 

[Nekobako]

Ye, the entire thing from point 1 is pretty much on point. We just went with how it currently is as a lowball cause the big og crt was more focused on reviving the verse than and full tiering and stuff.

Might do a big thread for the Human and Witch domain at some point (read: probably when Phase 2 released).

It looks like I have more question.

If Human domain represents as a Fragment is the conceptual form of Human domain (Fragment is crystallization of concepts) and Witches are transcended the Human domain also exist completely outside of Human domain.
It means Witches are transcended the concept of Human domain including the concept of dimension????

 

[Nekobako]

Bump

 

[Nekobako]

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