Question about Transcends "Concept" of Space-Time (Again)

[MSahla]

So.. Someone just said to me that

"Trancends the "Concept" of Space-Time is equals to Trancends all Dimensions, because all dimensions must have "Space-Time", so if theres any character that Transcends all of the Concept of Space-Time, they're also transcending all dimensions. Therefore, Its Low Outerversal"

Is that True?

 

[Animefacts300]

That would simply just mean you pass the 4 dimensions which is 5d you are not bound by space time which makes you above it to transcend all of concepts of space time you need to show proof of quantitative superiority meaning infinite spatial dimension to require outerversal tier 1-a

 

[Frey_Starlight]

you also would need supporting evidances for that to be true and the concept itself needs to be Type 1. But the very concept of Dimensionality in this WIki is treated as atleast High 1-B+

 

[MSahla]

That would simply just mean you pass the 4 dimensions which is 5d you are not bound by space time which makes you above it to transcend all of concepts of space time you need to show proof of quantitative superiority meaning infinite spatial dimension to require outerversal tier 1-a

Quantitative? Isn't that Low 1-A not 1-A..

 

[Zeldris98764]

So.. Someone just said to me that

"Trancends the "Concept" of Space-Time is equals to Trancends all Dimensions, because all dimensions must have "Space-Time", so if theres any character that Transcends all of the Concept of Space-Time, they're also transcending all dimensions. Therefore, Its Low Outerversal"

Is that True?

Not automatically, no.

"Transcending the 'Concept' of Space-Time" is Context-Dependent, what this means varies hugely by verse. Often, it implies being beyond the spatiotemporal rules of a specific reality or universe (which might grant Acausality or Conceptual Manipulation over that particular space-time). Low 1-A is for characters who can affect or embody structures encompassing all possible dimensional spaces (like the Von Neumann Universe). It's about transcending the entire framework of dimensionality.

The assertion that "all dimensions must have Space-Time" is a simplification. While dimensions are the axes that form spacetimes, Low 1-A deals with transcending the totality of all possible dimensional constructs. Transcending the "concept" of a single universe's space-time (even if that universe is, say, infinite-dimensional) doesn't equate to transcending all possible dimensions in the Low 1-A sense. The scope is different.

 

[OmniScalator]

Well, according to how it is given on wiki tiering page-

Characters whose power is on the level of the Von Neumann Universe. That is, they either encompass, or can affect structures which encompass, the collection including all possible dimensional spaces.

As a general rule-of-thumb, statements of being "above dimensions" and the like, whenever validly indicating a superiority over higher dimensions, fall under this tier without further context. See here for more information.

If you have statements of transcending dimensions, and you have enough evidence to prove that context of transcendence is to surpass spatio-temporal dimensions in a way of superiority and not just going outside them, it is automatically Low 1-A without further context.

But if you can somehow prove that given superiority is qualitative and not just quantitative, it can get to 1-A.

key things here are -

• Context of transcendence here should not be just going outside but it should be proved to be as superiority over spatio-temporal dimensions.
• without further context superiority will be considered quantitative and not qualitative, which will get Low 1-A.
• if superiority is proved to be qualitative it can get to 1-A.