Question About Goku

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

This is a hypothetical question, regarding a what-if scenario. Let's say that Jiren ends up being confirmed to be stronger than Infinite Zamasu, and Goku scales to him and is Low 2-C. If Goku could stack Kaio-ken on top of Ultra Instinct, would that make him 2-C, or?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, that would just make him a stronger Low 2-C

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Okay, so how much stronger is a character that can destroy 20 continuums than a character than can destroy a single continuum?

 

[Huesito88]

Pretty sure goku would need kaio-ken times 1000 to get any higher

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Why would the multiplier from Low 2-C to baseline 2-C be 1000? I'm still confused as to what the gap between Low 2-C and baseline 2-C is.

 

[LordGinSama]

2-C is being able to destroy multiple universes with thirty space-Time and low 2-C is just destroying a single universe with it's Space-Time


The only way I see Goku getting to 2-C is if he ever surpasses Zeno.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

So, if one was twenty times the strength of being Low 2-C, would they not be 2-C, or?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Huesito, the gap between 2-c and 2-B is 1,000x not low 2-c to 2-C.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Well we have pokemon gods who is low 2-C by breath and heartbeat.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Not anymore we dont.

 

[LordGinSama]

Isn't 2-C infinitely above low 2-C?

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Why not? we have Palkia and Dialga.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Thought low 2-C was one universe (including the continuum), 2-C being 2 up untill 1001,

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Because they're solid 2-C as of now.

 

[Kaltias]

The gap between Low 2-C and 2-C is super big, but it isn't infinite

 

[Primaris_Brian]

They will get upgraded to 2-C?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

They scale to darkrai who had a 2-c feat.

 

[Kaltias]

They will, but because they scale from Darkrai who will become 2-C, not just because they are super duper casual Low 2-C

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

But on a side note, what's the gap?

Isn't it just two universes?

 

[Schnee_One]

Two Universes is like, a ridiculously big gap.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Like, how big of a gap?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Is it an infinite gap, or?

 

[Kaltias]

It's difficult to quantify. Although it's pretty big, considering that people who are Low 2-C via existing are only "at least Low 2-C"

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

From what i understand unless you have shown you can create/destroy multiple space-time continuums it doesn't matter how much above low 2-C you are, you will never be 2-C. From what i heard it has to do with the character having to cross 5-D space in order to affect another universe, doesn't mean you have to be 5-D to do it, just be able to cross 5-D space.

To go from one space-time continuum to the other requires a ridiculous amount of power, as you can't just fly to another universe, well in dragon ball you can but in reality universes are separate things that you can't ge to with ordinary means, so destroying multiple of course requires a ridiculous amount of power.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Well, I know the Gods in To Aru are 2-A, and when their power is sealed and limited to 1/infinitieth of their power, they become Low 2-C. So if the gap between Low 2-C and 2-C isn't infinite, what is it?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

So what you're saying is 5D Whis? ovo

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@TheJ-ManRequiem No whis being able to fly to other universes just proves that the universes in db share the same space-time continuum, think we have already been over this.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

I was joking dude.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

My question remains unanswered. ;-||

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@TheHadou From what i understand the gap between the 2 isn't defined, it's either you can destroy a single space-time continuum, which would make you low 2-C, or you have shown you can destroy multiple space-time continuums, no multipliers will make you go from low 2-C to 2-C, as i already said it's not a matter of a multiplier here, but the ability to cross 5-D space.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Technically it's only a 2x boost, ya just gotta be able to effect both at once or cross that 5d space.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Understandable. So multipliers only start once they're 2-C? Got it.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@TheJ-ManRequiem That sums it up nicely.

@TheHadou Yes

 

[Antvasima]

Since the question has been answered, I will close this thread.